Prism sights are nothing new exactly, but they have certainly taken off in the last decade or so. When Trijicon brought the ACOG to the market, and it began showing up on military weapons, other manufacturers started paying attention. With their compact size and etched reticles, prism sights quickly became popular aided by their clarity and easy sight picture with magnification. One of the reasons they are so durable is because of their simple fixed magnification, some would also consider that a down sides of prisms. Today we are taking a look at one new option from Apex Optics, and this one carries a variable magnification feature. It also carries a few other feathers in its cap, so lets get into the Apex Optics Vapor 1-4×22 prism sight.
The Apex Optics Vapor Prism
The Apex Vapor is a variable zoom prism sight designed with CQB shooters in mind. Or maybe 3-gun if you are a civilian. With its 1 to 4 power zoom, it gives a great sight picture for those shooting fast and on the move. According to the manufacturer it provides unmatched clear magnification in a compact professional grade optic.
One of the main appeals of prism optics over a traditional LPVO is they eye box. Prisms have a more forgiving eye box that doesn’t require such a refine eye relief. This is ideal for someone who can go from shooting within the room to hundreds of yards downrange in the same engagement. And especially when lives are on the line.
The Vapor incorporates an adjustable diopter to focus the reticle, as well as a capped windage and elevation adjustment. The reticle is lit red by a variable rheostat on the left side, with 11 different brightness settings. The etched FIRE™ reticle has a fine aimpoint as well at a large ring for bracketing close targets. And for targets that are a bit further out, there are several holdover points on the reticle for corrective holdovers.
Specifications
Magnification
1–4×
Objective
22 mm
Ocular Lens
35 mm
Eye Relief
3.64″ / 88 mm
Field of View @ 100 yd
127.53 ft @ 1× / 34.94 ft @ 4×
Parallax
Fixed at 100 yd
Reticle
FIRE™ etched prism
Focal Plane
Second focal plane (SFP)
Adjustment
½ MOA per click
Adjustment Range
80 MOA
Clicks/Revolution
60
Length
5.5″ / 140 mm
Weight
13.9 oz optic only / 15.8 oz with mount
Body
6061-T6 aluminum
Battery
CR2032
Waterproof
IPX7
Shock Rating
1,000 G
Operating Temperature
−4°F to 140°F
Objective Coating
7-layer proprietary coating
Glass
Japanese ED apochromatic glass
Light Transmission
99.7% per lens
Mounting
RMR-pattern red-dot mounting capability
And if all that wasn’t enough, the Vapor also incorporates a built-in piggyback option for your favorite RMR footprint red dot. Many short range combat weapons incorporate something similar to allow an up close zero parallax aiming option. Additionally Apex Optics offers a 45-degree mounting plate so you can add the red dot sight to the side of the Vapor if you don’t want it on top.
Mounting the Vapor can be done a few different ways. There is a picatinny clamp option that uses several screws to clamp the foot of the optic to your rifle. They also have a QD option that allows you to clamp the optic in place, or remove it with a quick motion.
changing out the picatinny clamp foot
Additionally they have different heigh foot spacers that allow you to mount the Vapor in a high or low position to better fit your needs. After unboxing the Vapor, I took a few minutes to familiarize myself with these different options and swapped a few things around. I was surprised they even installed stub screws into the screw holes to prevent them getting damaged or filled with crud.
stub-screws that keep the threaded bosses protected
I also took a moment to mount the 45-degree red dot mounting plate with the provided fasteners. Since I had it, I installed an Apex Optics Atom red dot with its compatible RMR footprint.
On the Range
I would end up using the Apex Vapor on a few different rifles, all semi-automatic carbines. Various trips to the range. Shooting distances as close as 20 yards and as far away as 400 yards.
Optical Clarity
Even from the very first time I lifted the vapor to my eye, it was impressively clear. Prisms are usually impressively clear and sharp for their size, and the Vapor was no different. At all points in its magnification zoom, it looked fantastic with sharp detail.
illumination of the reticle
Reticle
After shooting with the Apex, I did a little looking around on what others are saying. I was surprised to see how many people have a problem with the reticle, as I found it to be quite useful. People will always argue over minutiae and their preferences for subtensions and hold-over points.
I found the Fire reticle to be perfectly useful, with a typical large ring around the central portion of the reticle. This large ring creates a much smaller one when the Vapor is zoomed out to 1X, making a nice small point to put on your target while squeezing the trigger. And when zoomed-in, the large circle allows you something to bracket the target.
the reticle offers a variety of hold-over points for further ranges
The various hold-over points on the lower elevation of the reticle give you repeatable marks to hold on your further targets. The indicated values in the manual are handy, but at the end of the day I just see where each point coincides with a given distance and keep those results tabulated.
Controls
The only significant controls on this optics are the zoom feature, and the brightness settings for the reticle. The brightness is similar to everything else you’ve ever tried, there are 11 settings with an off between them.
The zoom feature on the other hand is a bit unorthodox, with a throw lever attached to the magnification ring up front. It does feel a bit odd reaching to the front of the optic to adjust the magnification. But because its so small though, its not a far reach. I did find one thing that I wouldn’t call a problem, but felt weird. The throw of the lever is pretty short, and when it reaches the end of either end, there is a solid stop. So you don’t want to get too aggressive pressing on it.
Durability
Obviously time and use is the best way to test a products durability. While I fully plan on giving the Vapor a solid wringing out over the next year or so, that takes time. Fixed prism sights in general are tougher than variable magnification optics, but the Vapor itself is also variable. So it stands to reason that it might be less durable than a fixed prism sight. Time will tell.
here you can see the magnification throw lever up front
Value
The Apex Vapor is not what I would consider an inexpensive optic, with an MSRP of $950 it is certainly not entry level either. Additionally, the Vapor has a relatively specific purpose, which makes purchasing the Vapor a very deliberate choice. If you are looking for a variable zoom prism though, there aren’t so many options.
Perhaps it would be somewhat comparable to evaluate it against a 1-4 power LPVO. Of which there are many options and you can probably get them for a lot less than the Apex Vapor. But a bunch of cheap 1-4 LPVO’s does not equate to what this optic offers you. In fact, comparing it to some of the nicer 1-4 LPVO’s like those from Steiner, Trijicon and Leupold would be a better comparison. The Vapor is cheaper than those options, and other than tactical style turrets it has many of the same benefits in a more compact sight.
next to a small LPVO riflescope, the Vapor has a smaller footprint
There are a couple larger 4x and 5x prism sights from companies like Steiner and Burris, but they are fixed power. And depending on the model they might be only slightly cheaper.
Mounting Options
The Apex Vapor is available with a couple different spacers to change the optic height. Additionally you can get it with either a screw clamp foot or a QD foot. One can give you fast optic swap, and one is more compact and less likely to get snagged on your gear. Both of them give a solid interface with the host weapon.
you can choose the Vapor with either a screw-clamp foot or the QD lever foot.
Pros and Cons
Compact Size
Costlier than Most Smaller Prism Sights
Sharp and Clear Image
Very Usable Reticle
QD Foot for Faster Install and Removal
Short 45-Degree 1-4X Throw
Easily Mounted Piggy-back Red Dot
Tethered Caps That Double as Tools
Etched Reticle
the 45-degree mount for a red dot rotates perfectly into place for point-blank shooting
Final Thoughts
I really quite like the Apex Optics Vapor. I’ve been on an LPVO kick for a few years now, and the Vapor’s size is refreshing while still bringing the sighting options. The images seen through the optic are fantastic and clean, and its factory piggy-back red dot options make it easy to pick. And Apex Optics thought through the Vapor, with variable mounting heights and QD mount. If you are considering a high quality 1-4 power sight for your carbine, it certainly is worth taking a look at before making your decision.
As a precision rifle junkie, I have a hard time knowing when to say when with my rifle collection. Today’s topic descends from my desire to have a perfect rifle for every situation. And as a hunter of these Rocky Mountains, I wanted a custom rifle that would be perfect for just about any hunt that may occur here. Follow along as I take you through another custom rifle build, this one is a Bergara Premier action carbon fiber 7mm PRC.
Bergara Premier Action
At the heart of every rifle is the action itself, the mechanical part of the rifle that feeds and fires cartridges. The Bergara Premier Action is one of many clones of the famous Remington 700 action, popularized by its easy adaptability and performance.
The Premier Action builds on the best qualities of the 700, and adds a great deal of function and improvements of its own. All while maintaining the conformity to the 700’s footprint and accessories that make up the majority of the aftermarket.
The Premier Action is a rotating bolt, with a 90-degree throw, to engage its dual bolt-lugs. The conical bolt face incorporates dual ejector plungers, and a sliding ejector housed in one side of the face. The Nitride firing pin assembly is of the bayonet design, allowing removal with no jigs or tools, by just twisting the bolt-shroud a 1/4 turn and pulling to the rear. At the front of the action you will find a pinned recoil lug for perfect alignment, and on top it uses oversized 8-40 mounting screws to secure the scope mounts.
Bergara began selling the Premier Actions recently, and also sell them as barreled actions if you wish to buy them complete. Requiring only a few additional accessories to have a complete rifle. My experience with previous Bergara Premier rifles made me want to try one of these actions on this next build.
A Barrel to Match
A good action needs a good barrel to match, for that I selected an Osprey Barrel Works carbon wrapped barrel. Osprey barrels feature a six groove bore, the additional grooves make an overall smaller cut into the bullet. Like other modern rifling techniques , this is a superior design. And also is better for shooting monolithic copper solid bullets. The 416R stainless barrel is wrapped in carbon fiber and double stress relieved before being lapped and gauged.
The 7mm PRC chamber was cut, and the barrel finished at twenty-inches. That may seem a bit short for some folks, but I like short gun performance. And the 7mm PRC cartridge has plenty of performance to use.
Inside the barrel is a one-in-eight twist rate, this is a slightly aggressive twist rate optimal for some of the more modern 7mm bullet designs. My plan was to shoot some of my favorite .284 bullets like the Hornady 162 ELDM, and the Sierra 183 Match King. As well as the solid copper Cayuga 167 hunting bullet.
At the muzzle end, the barrel was cut and threaded 5/8-24 for attaching muzzle devices like brakes or more likely a suppressor. All machine work was done at Patriot Valley Arms in Pottstown Pa.
A Chassis Following the Theme
Since I was focusing on lighter weight, and maximum portability. I selected a carbon fiber stock/chassis from Pure Precision, which is designed for the Remington 700 footprint. Which of course the Bergara fits nicely. The aluminum block molded inside the carbon made a perfect match to the action.
A detachable 3-round magazine system from Hawkins Precision fits perfectly in the chassis. And to round everything off, I installed a Trigger Tech 2-stage trigger for a crisp and adjustable break.
With all those parts assembled, I installed the Warne Vapor 20-MOA scope rail to the receiver. This lightweight rail comes with both sizes of screws for 700 style actions, allowing a solid base for mounting a scope.
I selected my US Optics LXR 4-24 riflescope for this project, the broad spectrum of magnification are optimal for hunting. Whether I am sneaking through the tight Tamarak pines of Montana forests at 4-power, or zoomed in to 24-power to get the best view of a distant Pronghorn on Utah’s dry western desert. The bright clear image matched with excellent tracking make this scope an easy choice.
Custom Rifles and Custom Loads
Custom rifles, like most rifles, can benefit greatly from handloaded ammunition. The whole purpose of this rifle was to be accurate, compact and light, yet still bring enough power for animals like Rocky Mountain Elk. That would require some custom handloading, which luckily I’ve been addicted to for some time.
Per my usual approach to loading a cartridge, I started out with a couple bullets I know work well. For this project I selected the Sierra Bullets 183 Match king, the Hornady 162 ELDM, and the PVA Cayuga 167. The latter being a copper solid, resulting in very high ballistic coefficient for its weight. I have used them in various calibers with excellent results.
I acquired a set of Redding Premium 7 PRC dies, which allowed exact precision with a micrometer seating die. Making customizing my ammunition both quick and easy.
one of the very first groups from the PVA Cayuga bullets
Finding a great shooting load for each of them was a trial and error, but I ended up with an accurate load and good velocity. I have noticed that with these Cayuga bullets, it doesn’t take much to get a good rifle shooting half MOA or better groups.
Field Shooting
Taking this rifle into the high Rocky Mountains where it was meant to be was a priority. So with ammo loaded, I headed into the spring mountains. As you can see, winter hasn’t exactly let go of us up here in the high country. For both comfort and anonymity, I installed my Banish Backcountry suppressor. It did a fine job of keeping the 7 PRC quiet enough for my tatses.
The wide open spaces combined with the natural antagonist’s of wind, angles, and cold all made for excellent practice. And I was excited to see what this beauty was capable of. Since it was zeroed, and I had good velocity numbers in hand. I punched it all into my ballistic solver to come up with a few firing solutions.
A long-range Test
I’d setup my shooting position overlooking a long mountain valley. It was littered with snow patches, melting runoff, and a few conspicuous piles of dirt from wintering rodents. After measuring the distance to a few, I came up with one target at 565 yards and another at 980 yards. Both of them measured around 14-inches tall. This gave me roughly a similar sized target to the vitals of the Rocky Mountain Elk I intended to hunt with this rifle.
My calculator indicated just over two MRAD for the nearer target, so I dialed the LXR to 2.1 and settled behind the scope. I watched the mirage downrange, and counter-judged the wind I felt against the back of my neck. After holding a correction for the wind, I took up the slack in the trigger, and began my press while holding steady. The shot burst from the rifle, and I watched as the scope resettled on the target to wait for the impact. Half a second later, the little dirt hill exploded sending fresh soil scattering across the snow behind it.
For a change, after taking a few more shots, I shifted to the further target. I adjusted both the power and parallax setting on my scope before I settled the reticle on the further dirt mound. After extrapolating a wind hold from my first shots, I held into the wind after dialing 5.6 MRAD for the distance. I was happily surprised as the next three shots went solidly through my target. The flying dirt giving witness after each shot.
As it happens, I jumped on the opportunity for a last minute spring bear hunt in Western Montana. Hunting Black Bears in the spring there can be very challenging and rewarding. The moist climate never stays stable for more than a few hours, and in a single afternoon you can experience heavy sweating, rain, and snow.
After putting in hundreds of miles through the forests there, and carrying this rifle on my shoulder for an average 5-6 miles a day I was quite happy with it. My efforts to keep the gun short and light were very helpful as the miles stacked up. And at random points throughout the hunt I was able to take a shot here and there to confirm accurate shot placement. And despite coming up empty-handed for a spring bear, I was able to bag a few Marmots that tempted my dry spell.
Pros and Cons
With custom rifles its almost more of a do’s and don’ts than a pros and cons. With nearly unlimited options its more about selecting which attributes you want in a rifle and whether or not you want to pay for them.
the Cole-TAC Python suppressor cover keeps mirage down when shooting multiple shots, and also protects your suppressor from getting scratched up during rough hikes
Having said that, I can certainly say that most of my selections were on point. The Premier action is an outstanding platform to build on. Its smooth operation is matched by positive extraction and robust build. I don’t regret for a second spending the money on a good trigger, that makes a huge difference for me. The carbon fiber Osprey barrel shoots great and pushes my preferred bullets at an acceptable velocity for the purposes of this rifle. The Pure Precision stock is very comfortable and lightweight. I do wish I had splurged a touch more for the adjustable comb though. Even so, adding a Triad Tactical stock pack kills that bird and another by giving me additional ammo storage and comfort.
the Triad Tactical stock pack is a very comfortable and adjustable option, with a zip-pouch for storing additional ammo and/or snacks
I may have been a touch aggressive on the shortness of the rifle, I think if I did it again I would have gone for a 22-23-inch barrel, just for the velocity.
Final Thoughts on this Project
While I am quite happy with how this custom rifle turned out. But the true test will be after I finish out my hunting season this fall. I have plans for both deer and elk hunting, and perhaps a pronghorn antelope thrown into the mix. Once those hunts have concluded, I will likely have a much better hindsight on how this project came together. But so far I am quite please with the performance, and I look forward to those hunts with intense excitement.
Taurus has long been known for making handguns, going all the way back to WWII times. During their long lifetime of production the company has produced hundreds of different models totaling likely tens of millions of handguns worldwide. All that to say they aren’t new at manufacturing pistols, but today we are taking a look at one of their newer handguns released last year. Out topic today is the Taurus GX2 pistol, a compact polymer-framed, striker-fired 9mm pistol.
the flat-faced trigger feels great on the pad of your finger
The Taurus GX2
With an MSRP of only $310.99, the GX2 is certainly reachable by most any aspiring gun owner. But economy is not always the most important thing, value is only advantageous with adequate performance. Taurus’ GX2 has a feature set that matches its price appeal.
Before adding any accessories to the GX2
Its polymer frame incorporates comfortable angles and tactile textures. Despite its small size, it still packs 13-rounds. And low profile sights that still pop are matched with a TORO optics cut to accept RMS red dots. For those that desire there is also a low-profile safety, as well as a typical picatinny accessory rail under the slide.
Specifications
Caliber
9mm Luger
Action
Single-action, striker-fired
Capacity
13+1 rounds
Barrel Length
3.38″
Overall Length
6.14″
Overall Height
4.89″
Overall Width
1.18″
Weight
20.6 oz.
Frame
Stainless-steel alloy chassis with polymer grip/frame
Slide
Alloy steel
Barrel
Stainless steel
Sights
Fixed front; drift-adjustable rear
Trigger Safety
Yes
Firing Pin Block
Yes
Loaded Chamber Indicator
Visual
Manual Safety
Yes
Magazine Release
Reversible
Accessory Rail
MIL-STD-1913 / Picatinny
Finish
Matte black / matte stainless steel, depending on model
factory fresh
Unboxing
I was unsurprised that the GX2 came in the typical orange Taurus box, with one mag and a safety lock. A small instruction manual also came explaining its use. I lifted it from the box to get my first impressions, and was surprised. Taurus has upped their game in recent years, and it shows in the GX2 design and feel.
The grip feels fantastic, thin where it needs to be and thick where it can be. The texture is great, allowing good purchase with either or both hands. The flat-faced trigger and safety-blade meet the pad of your finger nicely, spreading out pressure as you press.
Pulling the slide was a little stiff, but that is expected with little 9mm pistols like this. It has both front and rear slide cuts for gripping, which is great. A serrated rear sight lines up nicely with a white dot front sight, and it comes with a plastic optics footprint cover like other Taurus pistols. An external extractor is tucked neatly into the slide, and the brushed stainless steel barrel contrasts handsomely against the matte black finish. Closer inspection show that the chamber has a loaded chamber indicator cut into the top, which is nice touch for CCW enthusiasts.
removing the plastic optics cover to install a red dot, also note chamber indicator slot in top of chamber
And the GX2 is obviously built for that purpose, its petite size make it perfect for tucking into your belt. I’m not big on safeties for CCW guns, but this one is actually just the way I would want a safety if it had one; Easy off, and hard to engage. A swift swipe with the thumb puts the pistol into firing mode, while applying the safety requires a focused effort. Enough at least that you won’t be putting it on by accident.
Shooting the GX2 Pistol
I was eager to get the GX2 on the range, and with a few friends we would quickly get comfortable with it. I brought one of my new red dot sights along to try with the GX2, this one is from Nutrek Optics called the Blade. Its RMS footprint fit perfectly on the GX2 slide with nothing but the screws that were already there. It lined up perfectly with the rear sight, and its built-in notch almost felt made for the GX2.
Both indoor and outdoor shooting was done, with and without the red dot. I also added a Streamlight TLR8 to the GX2 for carrying at night. And I have been carrying the pistol for several weeks now, and I must say I have been very happy with its comfortable fit. And its great shooting performance.
Shootability
Much like my TX22 and TX9, the GX2 grip feels great. And I couldn’t help but think this pistol felt strangely similar to a P365 in both size and handling. I already mentioned the safety function (which I didn’t use much), but the other controls are great too. The trigger is a touch stiffer than I am used to, but thats to be expected from a CCW pistol. But the break is clean, as is the reset, both offering a firm and audible snap.
The magazine release is easy to find quickly, and not in the way to get pressed accidentally. The slide release is a little bit stiff, but not bad enough to be a big deal. All of the controls are low profile, not likely to snag on clothing or other things.
Reliability
The GX2 chewed easily through magazine after magazine, which would have been nice to have another. The magazine looks very similar to the TX9 magazine, just smaller. I really like the loaded chamber indicator, its easily seen even by my aging eyes.
I disassembled the GX2 to see how it ticks, and I was surprised to find slide-rails that ran 2/3 the length of the frame. This is a stark difference from most pistols of this type, as they usually have just two small front and rear slide-rails. The GX2 shares many of the design features of the TX9, almost as if the trigger and sear pack can be removed and installed in another frame.
The guts of the GX2 look to be of high quality. With thick slide facets, and robust extractor and ejector. It does not feel like it was cheaply designed and made, which is confusing because the pistol is not particularly expensive. Putting your life on the line with a pistol though, takes some time to justify, and this one will get additional testing before I would pin that ribbon on it.
Accuracy
I found the GX2’s accuracy to be acceptable for its size and price. Shooting targets at typical 7-10 distances proved to more than adequate to hit what I was aiming at. I really liked the enhanced feeling of the Nutrek Blade red dot.
a couple groups from our testing
The trigger and standard sights made the GX2 easy to shoot well even without the red dot. And might certainly make it less cumbersome to carry.
Ergonomics
I was very happy with the feel of the GX2 in the hand. Even with full-size man hands the grip isn’t too small, and is still petite enough for my wife’s hands. The square trigger-guard and undercut both look good and function nicely, giving perfect space for a weapon light and its controls. Shaved edges on the slide reduce snag factor, while making the pistol more comfortable to tuck into your jeans.
13-round magazines is nice to have in a small pistol
Value
Taurus firearms are known for their affordability, sometimes to a fault. The GX2 does a great job at improving the quality impression and the shooting performance of the brand. And yet it is still impressively affordable. With street prices around $230 it is hard to argue against this little pistol as good of a time as I’ve had with it.
Seekins Precision has been a well known name in the precision rifle community for a long time. From small beginnings, Seekins has built a massive name for themselves among precision shooters, law enforcement/military and the hunting public. Today we will be taking a look at one of Seekins popular rifle models marketed towards hunters; the Seekins Havak PH3. This model happens to be chambered in 7mm PRC, though it is available in a variety of others.
the Havak PH3 in its happy place
The Havak is by no means an entry level rifle, more likely to be purchased by dedicated hunters who take their shooting very seriously. Furthermore, the caliber change ability of the PH3 Action allows the user to incorporate additional calibers to the same rifle. All this to say the Havak is worth sticking around to the end to see what makes it so useful to you as a hunter.
The Seekins Havak PH3
Seekins released the Havak in 2017, as a production premium hunting rifle. All kinds of custom rifle features were built into the rifle, particularly helical fluting, precise bedding process and quality triggers.
the PH3 came in a simple plastic case
Later in 2025 the PH3 model replaced the previous model. The new PH3 incorporated a sixty-degree bolt-throw due to its six-lug bolt design. Additionally, the PH3 added Seekins own switch-barrel system.
the PH3 Action, a fantastic design
PH3 Action
Its bolt can be completely disassembled without tools, which also allows you to change the bolt-head for different sized cartridges. The barrel can also be changed by loosening a tension screw on the side of the action, then threading the barrel out of the action. Reversing the process with a different barrel and bolt-head render the Havak PH3 a whole different rifle. More on this later.
the disassembled PH3 bolt, using no tools
Unlike the first generation of the Havak, the PH3 does not share the Remington 700 footprint. But it does use the same style triggers which is a nice touch. The bolt-release is opposite the bolt-handle on the left side of the action, and also acts as a key to keep the bolt from rotating unless in battery.
lots of lightening cuts, and of course the Trigger Tech
Chassis
The Havak uses a mini chassis to perfectly mate the action to the stock, made from a machined piece of aluminum incorporated to the stock itself. This model comes with adjustable comb, and features M-Lok rails in the forend to attach your favorite accessories.
here you can see the M-Lok center rail, and QD cup locations
The comb-height can be adjusted on the fly, which is a nice feature. As are the four integrated QD sling cups to attach your favorite sling. For scope mounting, the Havak uses a built-in 20-MOA canted scope base, which is ideal for long-range shooting.
Specifications
Caliber
7mm PRC
Barrel Length
22 inches
Barrel Twist Rate
1:8″
Barrel Material
Fluted & threaded stainless steel
Muzzle Thread
5/8×24 (includes muzzle brake)
Action Type
3-lug bolt with a 60-degree throw
Rifle Weight
Approximately 7.8 lbs
Overall Length
42 inches
Stock Material
Carbon composite with mini chassis
Stock Adjustments
Adjustable cheek riser
Trigger Type
Adjustable TriggerTech Primary
Magazine System
Detachable box magazine (3-round capacity)
Optic Mount
Integrated 20 MOA Picatinny rail
Accessory Mount
Full-length M-LOK rail on fore-end
Special Features
Quick Change Barrel System
Unboxing and Setup
As I opened the box I was pleased to see the Havak came in a simple plastic hard case. Nothing fancy, but nice enough to throw the gun in the bed of the truck. Inside the case I found the rifle and a fired cartridge in a small plastic tube, this is handy for those looking to handload.
PH3 Action and Barrel
After installing the bolt, and ran it back and forth a few times. It was smooth and easy to lift due to its three-lug bolt. There was a lower than anticipated amount of friction when closing and opening the bolt, which I expect will make cycling cartridges more fluid. The Trigger Tech as usual feels fantastic, with a clean break and a two position safety.
At the top of the action you can see the built-in picatinny rail. It is interrupted in the middle, and also has machined out the center of the picatinny section. This is an obvious weight savings technique, and it looks very well done.
The bolt-release is easily actuated to remove the bolt from the rear of the action. Removing the barrel is a little more intense of an operation that I will go into a little later. Helical flutes adorn the 22-inch barrel for a handsome look, and at the front you’ll find a radial muzzle brake mounted on 5/8-24 threads.
the 5/8-24 threaded muzzle and radial muzzle brake
Havak PH3 Stock
The stock was also impressive, with its built-in mini chassis and M-Lok rail. The precisely machined mini chassis perfectly fits the bottom of the action, and the stock closely fits the entire barreled action. On the bottom of the stock, there is a full-length forearm M-Lok rail that sits in a groove down the forend centerline. The aluminum magazine well is sandwiched under the rail, and the mini chassis.
The Amend 2 polymer magazine holds 3-rounds, and it fits securely in the Seekins magwell. The mag release is inside the triggerguard, and does require a fair amount of pressing to release the magazine.
here you can see the precise fitting of the action and mini chassis
Adjusting the comb-height of the Havak stock was surprisingly easy. I thought there would be a thumb-wheel or something to tighten. But there is a simple push-button that when depressed, allows you to raise or lower the comb. I like that the front end of the adjustable comb has a void to allow removing the bolt regardless of comb-height. There is a soft rubber recoil pad at the rear which works great to reduce the recoil of this magnum rifle with its light weight.
the comb-height can be adjusted by pushing the button in, and raising or lowering the comb. I love the cutout for the bolt, so you don’t have to change the comb-height to remove the bolt from the action
Setup
For my initial tests, I decided to mount some quality accessories. First off was the brand new Steiner H6Xi 2-12×42, a scope with a focus on hunters and their needs. With its 30MM tube and single rotation elevation turret, it would give more than enough travel for some long-range elk hunting later this year. I mounted the H6Xi in a set of matching 30mm Steiner rings, with just enough room to clear the rifle features.
Under the stock I put a Magpul M-Lok sling mount up front so that I could install a Harris bipod. A simple sling could also be added using the various QD cups on the stock of the Havak. Lastly I would for sure run the rifle suppressed, first with the SilencerCo Scythe Ti. And later using the SilencerCo Omega 36M just to get a little variation.
Initial Shots
First shots from the PH3 were done at a rifle range, to get it zeroed and baseline accuracy. For that I fired a couple different loads; some 162 ELDM handloads, as well as some 180gr Hornady Match and some Barnes VOR-TX 160gr ammunition.
I boresighted the scope before settling down behind the rifle on a bench. A couple shots was all it took to correct point of impact, and get a couple groups on paper. After which I zeroed the turrets of the little Steiner so it would be ready for bigger country.
As the morning went on, I shot additional rounds to evaluate how the PH3 functions and to familiarize myself with it.
Field Testing the Seekins Havak PH3
Later on a another day we would shoot the PH3 in the Rocky Mountains where it was meant to be. Bringing additional ammunition sources to see it the Havak has a preference for them. Here in the 10k density altitude, the 7 PRC is a monster of a cartridge. And up here is exactly the kind of place it will be used this fall during hunting season. With additional shooters to get behind the Seekins, we’d be able to generate additional feedback on the PH3.
Seekins is known for their precision rifles, and that is where I expected the PH3 to excel. It was a relief to see how quick the rifle was to group well. And with additional shooting it seemed to tighten up even more. It also showed a preference for Hornady’s Precision Hunter 175 ELDX ammunition, printing 3-shot groups under .5 MOA. (albeit 200FPS slower than the box said 🤥)
a couple typical groups from my first range trip
Shootability
The PH3 action is outstanding. The short bolt-lift and smooth throw make it fast and nearly automated. Muscle memory runs the operation on the back-burner while you focus on the target and firing solution.
The one thing that stood out to me about the PH3 action was it seems to have significantly lower friction when opening the bolt after firing. Lower than what I’m used to anyways, which was a very refreshing sensation. The Trigger Tech was immaculate as always, making clean shots every time.
Ergonomics
Resting on the stock of the Havak PH3 was quiet comfortable. I love the adjustable comb, allowing us to get a perfect sight picture through the scope. The angle of the grip feels very natural and gives a perfect angle for trigger engagement. Every thing feels in the right spot and functions just how you would like it to. But there is one thing, that I must give a demerit for on this rifle. The magazine release feels significantly stiffer than it need be. If it was an outside the trigger-guard type, I’d be okay with it. But being an inside the trigger guard, it requires more effort than I’d like. I found it challenging to operate without breaking shooting position significantly. This did give me the impression that reloading magazines hastily might be a challenge.
the Steiner H6Xi 2-12 was a perfect fit for the lightweight hunting rifle
It’s fair I suppose to assume Seekins designed it this way to avoid magazines from getting inadvertently released while hiking down some God-awful canyon. And for a hunting rifle I would favor too hard to remove over too easy, for that very reason. Its not a huge deal, but one I figured deserves mentioning.
Reliability
Staying on the magazine topic; we had zero malfunctions with the polymer Amend 2 magazine. I appreciate how compact the magazine is, and its slippery polymer lips that feed flawlessly. But the magazine did feel a tiny bit petite, like it could be broken easier than I’d like.
Feeding cartridges was all but flawless, a couple times I noticed someone’s first shots on the rifle it didn’t feed but only because they hadn’t fully seated the magazine. Extraction and ejection are smooth and predictable.
even with all the added accessories the PH3 was still managable
The stiff stock of the Havak PH3 kept the rifle reliably accurate, even as the barrel heated up some. Shots didn’t wander from point of aim. It was a great performance, crossing all my t’s and dotting i’s.
Value
I mentioned at the top, I don’t feel like the Havak is an entry level rifle. But if you can afford it as your first hunting rifle, you’ll likely never need another. Street prices for the Havak hover between $1700 and $1900, which is not insignificant. But when compared to other big name custom shop production rifles, it is still quite reasonable.
And with the Seekins name on it, you can trust they will take care of the product for life. I’ve dealt with some of the people at Seekins and they have always been informative and honest. Thats the kind of company that deserves your investment, and speaking of value, let us not forget the next topic.
Modular Seekins Switch-barrel System
This feature deserves it’s own section. Seekins has been making switch-barrel options for some time, you may have seen it in my review of the Seekins Havak HIT. The design is simple and reliable; barrels thread into the face of the action by hand, and are clamped secure using a single cross-bolt. This allows the user to remove their own barrel, and change it out to another should they choose. Additionally Seekins open sources their barrel design allowing you to have your local gunsmith cut you a custom barrel for your Seekins rifle.
here you can see the barrel clamp that keeps the barrel secure between swaps
If you find yourself changing to a smaller cartridge, you can swap out the bolt head to a different one by disassembling the bolt. This can be done by hand, no tools required. The system allows you to completely convert your Havak from the 7 PRC shown here to something like a 6.5 Creedmoor should you choose. All this done by you, at home, no special tools required (maybe a torque wrench if your’e a stickler). As a bit of a multi-caliber rifle guy myself, that is a value that is hard to put a price on.
Pros and Cons
Smooth reliable Action
The Magazine thing I mentioned
Built-in Picatinny Scope Rail
Lightweight Design and Balance
Great Accuracy out of the box
Barrel/Caliber Change Option
Adjustable Stock
Built-in Mini Chassis
Excellent Trigger
M-Lok Forend
QD Cups where you want them
Threaded Muzzle and Brake
Sexy AF
Conclusion
I was confident that the Seekins would be a solid buy, not just because of my past experiences with Seekins rifles but because they have built a good reputation in the market. I am glad this rifle stood up to my expectations, and I look forward to seeing it laying against the bloodied side of our prey later this year. The Seekins Havak PH3 offers an accurate and reliable rifle that will standup for life, and accompany you into the dark and damp parts of the forest. Its the kind of rifle that will ride on your shoulder for weeks at a time, and make the perfect shot when it matters. I love rifles like that, and if you find yourself looking for one too, give the Havak an honest look.
There are few bigger names in the suppressor industry than SilencerCo at the moment. SiCo has been around for quite a while, and has dominated much of the suppressor market for some time. At the top of the food chain, we can expect some cool and innovative products from SiCo, and today I bring you one of them; The SilencerCo Scythe Ti suppressor. The company offers two different Scythe models, the Ti we are looking at today, and the Scythe STM.
Fresh out of the box with its service tools for modular changes and mounting
The SilencerCo Scythe
Of the two Scythe models there is a bit of a split in purpose. The Ti model is made completely from titanium, a first for SilencerCo. The STM model is made from stainless steel, and has a two stage design that allows you to use it in a short or long configuration. Both models use an anchor brake at the front of the muzzle end to help reduce recoil.
SilencerCo pioneered the hub system that nearly every manufacturer uses today. This allows you the ability to change the way you mount your suppressor, whether it be direct thread, QD mount with an ASR suppressor mount or otherwise.
Our Scythe Ti was focused more for activities like hunting, where its compact size and lightweight make it optimal for long hikes. And the Scythe is rated for up to 300RUM cartridges which covers most of what a typical American hunter would use.
As I unboxed the Scythe Ti, the immediate impression was how incredibly light it is. At just over 6-ounces it almost feels fake, but I can assure you it is not. The raw titanium color looks great in my opinion, and the smooth welds are so fine they look more like tool marks.
recoil from magnums like this 7 PRC are tamed by the Scythe’s brake
It came with a couple tools for servicing the Scythe, as well as a 5/8-24 threaded hub for mounting. But like most cans these days, you can install another hub if you’d rather use one of the the QD devices or muzzle brakes.
In the Field
Using the Scythe in the field was done both on a public rifle range as well as in the Rocky Mountains where I typically spend my time. I would end up using the Scythe on several different rifles of various calibers. Myself and the friends that came along would take turns between shooting and listening to the report.
the modular mounting of the Scythe and its caliber compatibility allows it to be mounted on various firearms. This is a custom Remington 700 mounted in the Grayboe Flagstaff chassis
Sound Suppression
On .308 Winchester sized cartridges the sound suppression was excellent. Even for other shooters near the muzzle of the rifle the report was tolerable. And from any distance of five or so yards away it sounded as pleasant as could be. Regardless of where we were, I felt no reason to use hearing protection with the Scythe. Of course that is not what most people would recommend, for safety sake anyways.
Shooting through the Scythe on the range, and in the cold and wet Rocky Mountains gave excellent insight to the Scythe’s suppression. I would happily use it on any of my sub 30-caliber rifles, it sounds fantastic.
Recoil Reduction
With its built-in anchor brake, the Scythe also helps reduce recoil. By diverting the escaping gas perpendicular to the bore axis, it reduces the force pushed against the shoulder of the shooter. Again this is a design that SiCo explored and has done very well with on several of their other suppressors like the Omega 300, you can see more about that one here.
the anchor brake of the Scythe keeps recoil down diverting muzzle blast to the sides
Smaller cartridges like 308 Winchester, 260 Remington and 6.5 Creedmoor are not particularly heavy recoiling. But with the Scythe installed they feel like a child’s rifle, with hardly any recoil at all. Grant me this though, several of the rifles used during testing were heavier than a typical hunting rifle. That likely helped with recoil as well.
Removing the anchor brake from the Scythe can further reduce weight, and length, but c’mon… The Scythe is already incredibly light, and the brake portion so short that it seems silly to change it out for a traditional end cap. It seems I’m not the only one who thinks so, as a search of the internet show hardly any images of the Scythe without its brake in place.
Accuracy
Like most suppressors in my experience, the Scythe had no ill affects on the accuracy of the rifle. If anything it helped improve accuracy by increasing the mass of the rifle making it more anchored. Additionally, the recoil reduction helps keep you on target, which helps spot hits or misses on the target. Both of these facets will increase the amounts of hits you make.
Suppressors typically strip high pressure waves from the bullet as it leaves the muzzle. Much like a boat traveling through a protected harbor that keeps the big waves out. As the bullet passes through each baffle in the suppressor, it travels through more and more calm air. This allows the bullet to start its flight with less interference and they typically shoot better.
Modularity
With its 1.375×24 TPI hub, the Scythe can use any number of different mounting solutions. There are various SiCo brake options but you don’t need to stop there, as even other manufacturers hub mounts will fit the Scythe. Though it comes with a simple and lightweight 5/8-24 direct-thread hub, you can change it to better fit your purposes should you desire.
short cans are better for maneuvering, here you can see how compact the Scythe is
Again, I saw no reason to remove the anchor brake from the Scythe, and it would appear most people don’t.
Value
With an MSRP of $1174 the Scythe Ti isn’t exactly an entry level suppressor. But it is well worth the extra bit of cheddar you pay. Its hard to find a lighter can in this category, as most popular models are around 2 ounces or more heavier.
So if you are a hunter looking for the most compact and lightest suppressor you can get for your hunt, you should definitely be looking at the Scythe.
Its popularity also means that it flaws can be shown. SilencerCo says the Scythe has a very low rate of failure, but there are enough reports of failure to not be insignificant for those looking. And SilencerCo appears to be very quick to repair or replace them.
Pros and Cons
Extremely Light
Not Inexpensive
Modular Mounting System
Some Reports of Broken Welds
Recoil Reducing Brake
Heats up Quickly
Low Reflective Surface
Compact Design
Fully Welded Construction
Excellent Sound Suppression
Caliber Compatibility (5.56-300Rum)
Rapid Cooling Time
The Scythe adds minimal weight and length to your rifle
My Verdict
Shooting with the SilencerCo Scythe has proven to be very pleasant. It provides great sound suppression without adding a bunch of weight and length to your rifle. You can also configure the Scythe to mount in various ways that best fit your application. And on some of the heavier calibers it really helps reduce recoil, while smaller cartridges recoil is reduced to minimal. This performance does come at a slightly higher cost than many other options, but worth it in my opinion.
If you are a Creedmoor hater, you might just skip this one today. Actually, I take that back. Sit down and learn something even if its against your will. We recently went over the Creedmoor family of cartridges, and the pros and cons of each member of the family. Today we are taking a deep dive into one of those members, the 22 Creedmoor. Well go over some of the benefits of this cartridge and why you might choose it, and maybe even why you shouldn’t.
the Creedmoor family
Why the 22 Creedmoor?
Who made the 22 Creedmoor and why you might ask. After all, we already have a great supply of popular overbore centerfire .224 caliber cartridges. Why would we need another one? Sure its a bit faster than the 22-250 or maybe even the 220 Swift, but is that enough reason?
I plan on exposing the many answers to these questions. Aside from the many personal preferences we all have, I believe the strong points for the 22 Creedmoor are all based around advancements in shooting technology.
several of the best varmint hunting cartridges of all time
The 22 Creedmoor is purpose built using modern brass and cartridge manufacturing processes. It maximizes the efficiency of modern propellants, and uses modern bullet selection to its potential. And it has factory specifications to do all this in simple factory mass-manufactured rifles. I’ll go over some of the individual points and their details.
my Desert Tech SRS M2 allows me to shoot both 22 Creedmoor and .223 Remington out of the same riflethis 22 Creedmoor barrel was made by Patriot Valley Arms
There are unprecedented options for American handgun enthusiasts these days, and one of the more popular genres is the 2011 pistol market. 2011 is actually a trademarked name owned by Staccato who played no small part in making the double stack 1911 design. But like Jet-Skis and Kleenex, the name 2011 has become a universal label for the product and others like it.
Getting into a 2011 pistol can be expensive, especially if it’s an actual 2011. But today I wanted to share with you a few of my preferred and procured 2011 options that I can strongly recommend. I’ve had a few of them now, and thought I would share some insight on what you might choose if you are debating the options.
Made in America
It may seem like heresy to many 1911 fans out there, just putting a 9mm barrel into John M. Browning’s masterpiece. Not unlike putting a Toyota dual overhead cam inline-turbo-six into a 69 Camaro. But lets get right past the nonsense, and get into the guns.
You’ll find a bunch of great 2011 options made in America, but not many of them are going to come in under the $2000 mark. Many of them are well over that price-point, but there are reasons for it. I have a Staccato XC that I will often compare these other 2011 pistols to, but it is nowhere near the same price. If you are curious about the Staccato you can read my review of it here.
There are a couple options like the Kimber 2k11 series of pistols, as well as the Sig Sauer P211 GTO that I intend to review individually here soon. Though they are a bit over our $2,000 price point as well. The intro-level Platypus pistol from Stealth Arms would fall into our sub $2000 price range, and I fully intend on getting hands on one of those as well.
the Sig Sauer P211 GTO Combat
The Springfield Armory DS Prodigy
The SA Prodigy comes from a big name manufacturer, and has all the features 2011 fans are after. And it comes in well under the $2000 mark at around $1600. The Prodigy uses the polymer grip frame mated to a steel frame, this is pretty common among 2011’s. It has ambidextrous safety levers, and feeds beautifully from its 17 or 20-round magazines.
In my experience with the Prodigy, it is a smooth, well-built pistol. Its five-inch heavy match grade barrel is cut for a compensator that vents upward through the top of the slide. This helps keep it on target between shots. It also has a full length dust cover, which incorporated a picatinny accessory rail. It uses a two-piece guide rod assembled with an Allen wrench.
The Prodigy is a great balance of performance and value. It feels great and shoots just as well. With its slide cut for optics, it is ready to accessorize using the SA AOS plates and hit the range hard. If you’d like to see my in depth review of the Prodigy, you can read it here. This one has had zero updates from the factory, and is still going strong after the first thousand rounds.
Bersa M2Xi
You might not think of Bersa when you think of domestic manufactured 2011 pistols. But since opening their Georgia plant, Bersa has been making many new things. The Bersa M2Xi is a 5-inch ultra-match heavy-barreled 2011, with a 416 stainless frame and slide. It has a smooth glide on the frame that feels amazing. The Bersa is operated by a spring over a two-piece guide rod.
Its deep slide cuts give great purchase, and its controls are crisp and clean. The M2Xi uses a Holosun K optics footprint as well as some serrated iron sights. The flat trigger breaks nicely at just under 3 lbs, and it comes with an extended slide release that I really like.
It comes with 18-round Mec-Gar magazines that are seated neatly with the flared mawell. And as the only 2011 listed here today without a compensator it still shoots very nice, though it could shoot flatter with one. With its MSRP of $1479, the M2Xi sits neatly in the middle of our pistol lineup today. You can read my complete review of the Bersa M2Xi here.
Imported 2011’s
Many of the options for 2011 pistols getting closer to the $1000 mark are going to be imported. Not surprisingly they come from Turkey. There are many models from the Tisas brand that look nice, the Duty 9 DS Comp model very closely mimics the Prodigy’s design, and comes in a good $500 cheaper.
The Military Armament Corp MAC 9 is another pistol, nearly identical to the Tisas that appears to come out of the same factory. For not even $100 more. Both of them seem to enjoy some pretty positive following from American shooting enthusiasts. I am still trying to get my hands on both of those to see how they stack up to what I know.
Imported by EAA, the Girsan Match X incorporates an island compensator to its 5-inch barrel. Set on its two-tone black and tungsten frame the Match X looks fantastic. And it shoots very nicely as well with its flared magwell and fiber optic sight. An MSRP of $1199 makes it very appealing.
It too has a full length dust cover with a pic rail for accessories, and its polymer/steel frame carries its 17 or 20-round magazines. The Girsan is also optics ready, using an RMSC footprint. Its slide is returned using a spring over a single piece guide-rod.
Having shot this pistol, I was quite impressed with its price. It handles just as good as all the others, and it shoots accurately and reliably. This one already has over 1,000 trouble-free rounds through it.
Girsan 2311 CMXX
The CMXX from Girsan appears to be the smaller sibling of the Match X. This one uses a Commander length 4.25 -inch compensated barrel, an island compensator like the Match X. It is all black however, and looks like a shorter clone of my Staccato XC. It also is very comparable to the MAC 9 DS, as they both share the 4.25 barrel and comp design.
Like the Match X, the CMXX has a great trigger to match its heavy barrel. Again a single-piece guide-rod operates the pistols action, feeding from the same 17-20-round magazines as the Match X. The big difference between the CMXX and all the others I mention here today is that it doesn’t use a grip safety. Instead they went with a firing pin block like you’d find on striker pistols. Not gonna lie, I kind of like it better.
The CMXX is optics cut for RMSc optics, and its flared magwell and full-length picatinny rail makes it easy to mount your favorite light. This little pistol shoots fantastic and very flat, making it an easy choice to buy at $1149 MSRP. You can read my in-depth review of the CMXX here. Sharing the same internal extractor as the rest of these models, it has yet to malfunction on me.
My Opinion
If you are a die-hard America only kind of guy, then you’d have to choose the SA Prodigy I guess. It brings great value from a big name domestic manufacturer, and with it comes great performance.
The Bersa while a little less-known brand, might even bring a better performance for the price. Its just as smooth and refined as the Prodigy, and might even be a little better. As is the trigger, and this for almost $200 less.
I LOVE how smooth the Bersa is compared to the others I’ve shot
Out of the two Girsan models, I prefer the CMXX. I love it so much I would probably even pick it over the Bersa despite it not feeling quite as nice as the Bersa. Now, if the Bersa had an island compensator on a Commander barrel length that would change everything…
the CMXX might be my favorite due to size and performance.
I you are absolutely tapped out on funds, then I expect the MAC and Tisas are probably your choices. Or some of a few others that are similar.
I can happily recommend the pistols I’ve shown here, and if you are interested in them I would recommend reading my in depth reviews of them to get a better perspective on them. One thing is for sure, you will like shooting 2011 pistols. And it may be the beginning of an addiction you wont be able to kick.
My first real rifle, used a laminate wood stock. Not too long after, the fiberglass craze took off, as did the mainstreaming the entire custom rifle industry. It was a radical decade or two where aluminum bedding blocks eventually turned into complete chassis with carbon and other materials added in. Big growth from many companies involved was inevitable, as was the next logical step. Today we are talking about one of those products, The Grayboe Universal Mini Chassis system, and the stocks that go with it. A relatively new product offering, that offers all the precision of an aluminum chassis, and the fit and feel of a synthetic composite stock. Because of the modularity of the UMC stock system, I decided to combine two options into a single review.
Grayboe’s founder comes from the McMillan family, yes that one. I expect his exposure to the stock industry, as well as time spent behind rifles and in service influenced the company’s direction.
What Grayboe has done with their Universal Mini Chassis (UMC) is brilliant for several reasons. Everything in the gun industry is going to modular designs; multi-caliber rifles, interchangeable suppressor hubs, serialized fire control units for pistols and so on. Grayboe has brought that premise into the rifle stock market with their UMC stock design.
The UMC is exactly what it sounds like; a minimized chassis that incorporates mounting the action against a custom machined fit. Allowing a perfectly supported action while supporting the magazine and trigger within.
the Grayboe Universal Mini Chassis (UMC), this one specific to the CVA Cascade short action. I also have one for the Remington 700 short action
The UMC incorporated AICS magazines even for actions that used proprietary magazines in their stock configuration. They also have little options like adjustable magazine release levers. Weight of the UMC can vary depending on what action/inlay you choose, but its around 14 ounces.
the UMC once installed in the stock is indifferent from a traditionally bedded rifle stock
The UMC is only as big as it needs to be to accomplish those features, because it is then bolted into one of Grayboe’s many stock options. Currently these are the actions with a Grayboe UMC option.
Remington 700 Short Action
Remington 700 Long Action
Tikka T3 / T3x
Howa 1500 Short Action
Howa 1500 Long Action
Ruger American Short Action
Ruger American Long Action
Savage 110 Short Action
Savage 110 Long Action
Mossberg Patriot
CVA Cascade Short Action
The Stock Options
Grayboe’s composite fiber and impact resistant polymer stocks incorporate the light weight and strength of composites, married to all the features that shooters want. They have a variety of different stocks designed for different purposes and budgets in mind.
Core – Competition focused
Flagstaff – Hunting application lightweight
Halo – Hunting/crossover
Phoenix 2- Hunting/crossover
Renegade 2 (Unreleased at publication)
All of these stocks accept the UMC using two screws. That means if you have two different Grayboe stocks, you can transfer your rifle from one to the other in under a minute if you’re quick. All the UMC’s have the same external footprint, fitting any of the Grayboe stocks. And they make UMC’s for most of the popular rifle actions.
torquing in one of my CVA Cascade rifles into the UMC
The Innovative Bit
So you might have already imagined, if you have a couple UMC’s, and a few stocks, you can mix and match. This brings options to the American rifleman who lusts for customization and modularity. You could use the exact same stock on your Ruger American 7PRC elk hunting rifle and your favorite Tikka 22-250 varmint rifle. And they can be changed out quick and without needing to re-zero the rifle.
Unboxing Grayboe Stock
Grayboe recently released a UMC for the CVA Cascade short action, and since I am currently on a Cascade kick it was perfect timing. And as a glutton for modular rifle systems, I tested both the Grayboe Flagstaff and Core stocks with the CVA UMC. My two CVA Cascade rifles would both benefit from the Grayboe system. The exact rifles used are the CVA Cascade SB .65CM and the CVA Cascade Long Range Hunter 25CM, you can read the reviews of the individual rifles here.
You can buy the Grayboe stocks with or without the UMC of your choice. The different stocks come with different accessories, depending on the stock. For example, the Core stock came with spacers to adjust the length of pull. Both stocks came with M-Lok slots under the forearm to allow attachment of accessories like bipods and ARCA rails. They also have QD cups to attach slings both front and rear.
The UMC comes with hardware to attach the rifle action, as well as connecting the UMC to the stock itself. As well as some simple instructions to assemble the whole thing.
Features
These two stocks have some differing features as they are built for very divergent purposes. The Flagstaff is built with hunters in mind, while the Core is built for competitive and professional shooters. They share the footprint of the UMC, and the same stylings but are otherwise pretty different.
here is one of my custom Remington 700’s mounted in the UMC/Flagstaff
The Flagstaff
Keeping the weight down on the Flagstaff was obviously a priority, but it is still pretty feature rich all things considered. On the flat-bottomed forend you will find four M-Lok slots for attaching things like ARCA rails or your favorite bipod. It also has QD sling cups on the bottom front and rear to attach your favorte sling.
the CVA Cascade LRH 25Creedmoor in the Flagstaff stock
The textured grip is built at a 35 degree angle, and comb height is fairly traditional. I found that the polymer Flagstaff has a slight compressed fit when installing the UMC, adding a bit of a squeeze to it. Whereas in the carbon fiber Core, it dropped in like a machined fit.
The Core
By comparison, the Core stock has a lot going on. It can be had in either fiberglass or carbon, with a significant weight difference between them. Since it has a focus on the professional shooter, there are many added little features.
The length of pull can be adjusted using provided spacers, moving the gel recoil pad to fit the shooter. The comb height can be adjusted on the fly with a thumb-screw, keeping the luxuriously soft cheek-rest at the perfect height for your sight picture. On the bottom of the buttstock you will find a traditional butt-hook to keep the recoil pad in your shoulder pocket.
spacers are used to adjust length of pull on the Core stock
On the right side of the stock, there are threaded mounting bosses to install a HopticUSA cartridge quiver. An accessory that has become quite popular over the last few years. Up front the Core also features M-Lok slots under the broad and flat forend. It also has multiple QD cups on all sides of the stock so you can carry it different ways. The barrel channel is cut wide, to allow heavy barrel profiles often used in competition.
Grayboe Core
Grayboe Flagstaff
Weight
4.5lb Fiberglass/6lb Carbon
2.5lbs
Material
Fiberglass or Carbon fiber
Impact resistant polymer
Barrel Channel
Under 1.330 inches
Sendero under .925
Sling QD Cups
7 total front and rear
Front and rear
M-Lok Slots
Full length on forend
4 M-Lok slots on forend
Length of Pull
12.75 min Plus .25” spacers
13.5
Comb Height
Adjustable (tooless)
Fixed
Overall Length
32.5-inches
31.5-inches
my custom Remington 700 .223 Remington setup in the Core stock. Its heavy 1.30 straight taper barrel barely fits but it shoots amazing in this setup
Installation
Since I got the system for my CVA Cascade rifles, I would end up installing two different rifles in various configurations. And swap both of them back and forth between the different stocks to get additional experience. I also got my hands on one of the Remington 700 SA UMC’s, which has also allowed me to use these stocks on several of my custom 700’s.
One of the first intricacies that I noticed was a necessity by the manufacturer to make each UMC fit the different action options. For example; the CVA Cascade action screws are in front of and just behind the magwell. This required an engineering solution because a traditional trigger guard like on typical floorplates would be right on top of the rear action screw.
here you can see why the trigger guard needs to be removable, the rear action screw is right under it
Unlike tang-mounted rear action screws like on a Remington 700 that go behind the trigger guard. So Grayboe’s solution was to install the trigger guard after marrying the UMC to the action. The trigger-guard incorporating the mag release are pinned in place after attaching the UMC and action.
the two roll pins that attach the trigger guard and mag release assembly. It must be attached AFTER installing the action to the UMC
I was right to assume that other UMC’s for other actions have a regular trigger guard as part of it, as you can see on my Remington 700 SA UMC below. The trigger guard is built into the UMC as the rear action screw can be accessed without removing it.
Perhaps there are several differences like this depending on the different actions. The UMC can then be dropped right into any of the compatible stocks. There are two cap-screws that connect the UMC and the stock that once torqued down, make it into one solid structure.
tightening the UMC into the Flagstaff stock
It really wasn’t very hard at all to figure out the installation, or to swap them between the two stock options I had. I hadn’t even gotten to the range yet and I was already contemplating other UMC’s for some of my other rifles.
After the installations process, its simply a matter of adding the accessories you would like for the stock. For example, on the Core stock, I installed one of my Hoptic USA cartridge quivers on the side. I was surprised that this little bonus was added, and that they even put stub-screws in to protect the threads from getting damaged or filled with crud.
Installing my HopticUSA 25 Creedmoor cartridge Quiver. inset: removing the stub-screws
Additionally, I decided to add an Area 419 ARCA lock rail to the Core stock. It is already pretty heavy (which is common for competition guns) so adding a little more wasn’t a big deal. I might add a lightweight short ARCA rail to the Flagstaff, but that one I’m trying to keep light in hopes of carrying it this hunting season.
all AICS magazines I used worked great with the Grayboe UMC
Shooting with Grayboe Stocks
Putting the Grayboe stock system to work, would take place over various trips to the range in open country of the Rocky Mountains. I like to practice where I hunt, so the Flagstaff would get used in the same rugged country where we chase deer and elk. The Core on the other hand isn’t exactly a hunters best choice, but it too would get used for some long range shooting in big country.
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Ergonomics
I used just about every option there is when it comes to stocks and chassis. I don’t consider myself to be particularly picky as in general I like most of them. The Grayboe Flagstaff has a pretty traditional feel to it with some added features for handling.
Grayboe Flagstaff
The grip area has a textured pad for added purchase. And the forearm of the stock has two finger grooves running down the side, this gives your fingers something to hold on to when carrying by the stock. The rubber buttpad is nice, sticking where it should.
I ended up using a Triad Tactical stock pack on the back to get better comb height. This turned out to be a suitable situation for my hunting purposes. I also used a few different AICS pattern magazines, all of which worked great.
Grayboe Core
Grayboe’s Core stock on the other hand feels a bit more like a nice leather couch compared to the Flagstaff. That should come as no surprise as most competition focused stocks have many comfort features.
shooting from the Two Vets Tripod attached by ARCA rail system
The adjustable comb is as luxurious as it is practical. Making the rifle fit you is quick and simple, and a comfortable place to rest your cheek while shooting. The vertical grip feels fantastic, keeping your finger perfectly presented to the trigger. The magazine release of the UMC is easily reached with your trigger finger, and has enough resistance to avoid being accidentally engaged.
It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if there was a touch more texture in the right spots, as most guns put into this stock are going to be heavier. A nice texture on the grip areas would help for holding tight. It was nice to carry on a sling though, without it dragging or pulling at clothing.
The wide front end of the Core stock allows you to rest the rifle on any surface it will fit, and get a good rest. Once I’d added the ARCA rail, it was even bigger around which could be a challenge for small handed individuals.
Putting the soft gel recoil pad into your shoulder feels quite suave. My two CVA’s don’t recoil very hard but if you had one that did, this recoil pad would definitely soften the blow. I also like the butthook under the stock, it allows you to pull the stock into your shoulder when you need it.
Both of these stocks are quite rigid, giving that stiff platform to launch your shots from. I was surprised to find out the Flagstaff was made from polymer, I initially thought they were both carbon fiber. But even though it is made of a “lesser” material, I was quite happy with it. Minimal flex of the stock make the Flagstaff a great option, and its polymer production is likely why it is more affordable than the carbon options.
The Grayboe Core stock takes it to the next level, with all the best materials and features. Everything from the finish of the stock, to the supplied fasteners and little instruction cards to help those mechanically challenged out there. The soft parts of the the Core are so nice I’d hate to take them hunting, as they might get sweat soaked or even torn hiking through brush. It does feel built like tank, if you ran out of ammo you could certainly beat your antagonists into a fine paste with it.
the Universal Mini Chassis
Machine work as seen in the Universal Mini Chassis is excellent. All the aluminum parts were nicely anodized and smooth. Both of my rifles fit perfectly into the UMC, and functioned flawlessly. You can tell they spent time designing each different UMC to interact with the action it was meant to fit. And in the CVA case, makes them work perfectly with AICS magazines.
Durability
Grayboe offers a lifetime warranty on their products, which is very comforting. It covers both craftsmanship and accidental damage for those who like to leave their rifle propped against truck tires. If you do happen to use your stock to beat someone into pâté and wear some of the finish off however, that would be considered normal wear. So don’t expect to abuse the warranty.
The only thing I found during my time with these Grayboe stocks that made me pause for durability concerns was the trigger guard. I could see somebody not being careful enough and damaging or breaking the trigger guard when in stalling it in the UMC. Again this might just be the CVA option as others are built into the UMC.
Value
If you browse some of the popular custom stock options you can find stocks that cost significantly more, and some that cost less. The Flagstaff is definitely a more affordable option, with not many less expensive options that offer an aluminum mini chassis.
The Core stock on the other hand has a lot more competition from many of the big names. Even so, the Core is not as expensive as other options. At this level, there is a lot of subjectivity and usually folks can choose based solely on their preference and looks. Many of the Core’s competitors offer similar features, but they don’t offer the modularity. That may be reason enough to choose the Grayboe option.
Pros and Cons
Pros
Cons
Comment
Strong and rigid construction
(Core) Can be heavy
Comp guns are heavy so…
Great fit and finish
Trigger guard thing I mentioned
May only be the CVA version
(UMC) Precise machinework
I’d like more exterior texture
For grip areas and in general
Excellent modularity
Huge step up from original equipment
Both stock and magazine system improved
Comfortable to carry and shoot
Excellent warranty
Great value
Great Feature set
M-Lok, QD cups, etc.
the flat bottomed forend of the stocks made it easy to improvise shooting positions
Final Thoughts
Different designs appeal to different individuals tastes, I definitely found the Grayboe products to fit into mine. I really enjoy configurable rifles, and the ability to interchange and customize them. But that is certainly not a requirement, as you can setup you rifle in one of these Grayboe chassis systems and never mess with it.
There is definitely a style to their designs, like any manufacturer. And whether one style or another appeals to you, the function of the Grayboe system is fantastic and innovative. Whether you choose to mix and match as I have, or if you are just looking for a solid stock/chassis to improve your factory rifle these will work great. They are well built, and offer great features for a reasonable price made by Americans right here in America.
