Getting into the hunting lifestyle might be a daunting task if you were not raised in a hunting family. The wild calls us however, and whether or not you were brought up hunting, you might find yourself drawn to it. Maybe your father or other family members were either too old or unavailable to teach you when when the time came. Regardless of the reasons why, today I want to share how I recommend you begin down the path of becoming a venerable hunter. Not just for the results, but for the experience and to satisfy the natural drive of participating in the circle of life. Learning to hunt is about going from the novice in the group, to the mentor of one.
Why We Hunt
Hunting is not just about killing, nor is it only about food. Hunting is a natural activity that mankind has taken part in for thousands of years, and part of what put us to the top of the food chain. Despite much of our society not understanding or even needing to participate in obtaining their own food, it remains at the top of our important survival instincts. And those that keep that edge will be better off when it matters.
Eating the spoils of a hunt double the pleasure
For most hunters in the western world, hunting is less of a need and more of a hobby. But that does not make it any less valuable a skill. Drawing a carbon arrow tipped with razor sharp steel from a treestand, you share some of the same values and skills as our ancestors drawing a handmade wooden arrow tipped by bone in a jungle. And I expect that the practice can be understood between distinct peoples despite all other misunderstanding.
a combination of family and friends makes an excellent team
Some hunt for sport, some hunt just for the meat. While others simply hunt for the prestigious bones to hang on the wall. Whatever your reason, make it a good one based on principle. For more on that topic, I went into detail here.
Find Your Passion
Some people are drawn to primitive weapons, while others like myself prefer using cutting edge equipment. As long as it is legal where you live I suppose your chosen tool matters only to you. So whether you like rifle hunting, muzzleloaders, archery or even a spear, pick a practice that intrigues you.
I learned much of hunting from my Father, who enjoyed both archery and rifle tackle, but was also passionate for waterfowl and bird hunting as well, read more about that here
If you are just getting started in hunting, it might be best to stay a little bit mainstream. You can always move towards different hunting methods later. Most hunters will either end up using either firearms or archery, both are well established and respectable practices. And both have huge industries with large support networks to learn about both equipment and skills. Varmint hunting is an easy way to dip your toe in the hunting world, you can see more about how here.
Join a Team
The best thing I can recommend at that point, is to find a group of friends or family that shares your passion. If you are young, I would recommend finding a group of good ‘ol boys that hunt in a way you would like to emulate. Long time hunters have a set of skills and wisdom that has been learned and passed down for generations. There is a value in this wisdom that cannot be quantified.
my brothers have always been part of my hunting group, its incredible how we once were incredibly unsuccessful, and how that has changed over the years
Understanding the habits of local wildlife and ways to encounter them are far better learned from these folks than any published information ever could. Those of us who spent countless days hunting on our own without the help of others only to come up empty-handed know what I speak of. Even a little guidance from those who have been doing it long-term is incredibly valuable.
I would consider it wrong to not make your own kids part of your team
It always surprises me during hunting season as so few people find success on the same mountains where we are always so successful. I think it is because of our groups intimate familiarity with these mountains and the animals that live there. That and our consistent presence every year learning more about herd migrations and activity.
Put in the Work
You might be surprised how quickly you find yourself adopted to a group by simply offering an open backpack and a willing set of legs. Old guys love having young helpers to pack out meat. Even if all you have to offer is that physical effort, there are plenty of folks who would be willing to help you become successful.
Some of my best hunting partners began just that way. Finding each other deep in the back of some snowy cold canyon, and helping pack out hundreds of pounds of elk meat. And years later we remain great friends. I have a whole list of friends that are almost strictly hunting friends, people who I might communicate with once or twice a year. Until hunting season starts, where we communicate almost daily, sharing information on animals and where we might help each other. Often the information we share is the most valuable tips of all when it comes to each of us being successful.
Share the Bounty
I love hunting, and I love getting what we are after. Being successful in a hunt is often more important to me than getting some kind of trophy animal. Sharing exploits of our hunts is often a great source of camaraderie, if six of us go hunting, and only four are successful, everybody goes home with something. All of us are rewarded with experience, meat, and stories that will bring us back next season.
some of my very favorite hunts have been helping new hunters learn the practice
A good group of hunters will help you learn what it takes to be successful. And will also try to ensure you walk away with at minimum enough reward to try it again. And once you find yourself becoming one of the mentors of a group, its important for you to do the same. Pass along what you know, and help those coming up around you to be successful too. Not every trophy gained during a hunt goes home in a cooler, its often lessons and memories.
Last Thoughts
If you made it this far, I expect you genuinely wish to learn more. I hope some of what I’ve said is helpful for you, and can help you move towards your goal. I’ve tried to put a great deal of information together that will also help you here on this website, follow the links listed here to a few additional topics that I hope you will find valuable.
As a precision rifle junkie, I have a hard time knowing when to say when with my rifle collection. Today’s topic descends from my desire to have a perfect rifle for every situation. And as a hunter of these Rocky Mountains, I wanted a custom rifle that would be perfect for just about any hunt that may occur here. Follow along as I take you through another custom rifle build, this one is a Bergara Premier action carbon fiber 7mm PRC.
Bergara Premier Action
At the heart of every rifle is the action itself, the mechanical part of the rifle that feeds and fires cartridges. The Bergara Premier Action is one of many clones of the famous Remington 700 action, popularized by its easy adaptability and performance.
The Premier Action builds on the best qualities of the 700, and adds a great deal of function and improvements of its own. All while maintaining the conformity to the 700’s footprint and accessories that make up the majority of the aftermarket.
The Premier Action is a rotating bolt, with a 90-degree throw, to engage its dual bolt-lugs. The conical bolt face incorporates dual ejector plungers, and a sliding ejector housed in one side of the face. The Nitride firing pin assembly is of the bayonet design, allowing removal with no jigs or tools, by just twisting the bolt-shroud a 1/4 turn and pulling to the rear. At the front of the action you will find a pinned recoil lug for perfect alignment, and on top it uses oversized 8-40 mounting screws to secure the scope mounts.
Bergara began selling the Premier Actions recently, and also sell them as barreled actions if you wish to buy them complete. Requiring only a few additional accessories to have a complete rifle. My experience with previous Bergara Premier rifles made me want to try one of these actions on this next build.
A Barrel to Match
A good action needs a good barrel to match, for that I selected an Osprey Barrel Works carbon wrapped barrel. Osprey barrels feature a six groove bore, the additional grooves make an overall smaller cut into the bullet. Like other modern rifling techniques , this is a superior design. And also is better for shooting monolithic copper solid bullets. The 416R stainless barrel is wrapped in carbon fiber and double stress relieved before being lapped and gauged.
The 7mm PRC chamber was cut, and the barrel finished at twenty-inches. That may seem a bit short for some folks, but I like short gun performance. And the 7mm PRC cartridge has plenty of performance to use.
Inside the barrel is a one-in-eight twist rate, this is a slightly aggressive twist rate optimal for some of the more modern 7mm bullet designs. My plan was to shoot some of my favorite .284 bullets like the Hornady 162 ELDM, and the Sierra 183 Match King. As well as the solid copper Cayuga 167 hunting bullet.
At the muzzle end, the barrel was cut and threaded 5/8-24 for attaching muzzle devices like brakes or more likely a suppressor. All machine work was done at Patriot Valley Arms in Pottstown Pa.
A Chassis Following the Theme
Since I was focusing on lighter weight, and maximum portability. I selected a carbon fiber stock/chassis from Pure Precision, which is designed for the Remington 700 footprint. Which of course the Bergara fits nicely. The aluminum block molded inside the carbon made a perfect match to the action.
A detachable 3-round magazine system from Hawkins Precision fits perfectly in the chassis. And to round everything off, I installed a Trigger Tech 2-stage trigger for a crisp and adjustable break.
With all those parts assembled, I installed the Warne Vapor 20-MOA scope rail to the receiver. This lightweight rail comes with both sizes of screws for 700 style actions, allowing a solid base for mounting a scope.
I selected my US Optics LXR 4-24 riflescope for this project, the broad spectrum of magnification are optimal for hunting. Whether I am sneaking through the tight Tamarak pines of Montana forests at 4-power, or zoomed in to 24-power to get the best view of a distant Pronghorn on Utah’s dry western desert. The bright clear image matched with excellent tracking make this scope an easy choice.
Custom Rifles and Custom Loads
Custom rifles, like most rifles, can benefit greatly from handloaded ammunition. The whole purpose of this rifle was to be accurate, compact and light, yet still bring enough power for animals like Rocky Mountain Elk. That would require some custom handloading, which luckily I’ve been addicted to for some time.
Per my usual approach to loading a cartridge, I started out with a couple bullets I know work well. For this project I selected the Sierra Bullets 183 Match king, the Hornady 162 ELDM, and the PVA Cayuga 167. The latter being a copper solid, resulting in very high ballistic coefficient for its weight. I have used them in various calibers with excellent results.
I acquired a set of Redding Premium 7 PRC dies, which allowed exact precision with a micrometer seating die. Making customizing my ammunition both quick and easy.
one of the very first groups from the PVA Cayuga bullets
Finding a great shooting load for each of them was a trial and error, but I ended up with an accurate load and good velocity. I have noticed that with these Cayuga bullets, it doesn’t take much to get a good rifle shooting half MOA or better groups.
Field Shooting
Taking this rifle into the high Rocky Mountains where it was meant to be was a priority. So with ammo loaded, I headed into the spring mountains. As you can see, winter hasn’t exactly let go of us up here in the high country. For both comfort and anonymity, I installed my Banish Backcountry suppressor. It did a fine job of keeping the 7 PRC quiet enough for my tatses.
The wide open spaces combined with the natural antagonist’s of wind, angles, and cold all made for excellent practice. And I was excited to see what this beauty was capable of. Since it was zeroed, and I had good velocity numbers in hand. I punched it all into my ballistic solver to come up with a few firing solutions.
A long-range Test
I’d setup my shooting position overlooking a long mountain valley. It was littered with snow patches, melting runoff, and a few conspicuous piles of dirt from wintering rodents. After measuring the distance to a few, I came up with one target at 565 yards and another at 980 yards. Both of them measured around 14-inches tall. This gave me roughly a similar sized target to the vitals of the Rocky Mountain Elk I intended to hunt with this rifle.
My calculator indicated just over two MRAD for the nearer target, so I dialed the LXR to 2.1 and settled behind the scope. I watched the mirage downrange, and counter-judged the wind I felt against the back of my neck. After holding a correction for the wind, I took up the slack in the trigger, and began my press while holding steady. The shot burst from the rifle, and I watched as the scope resettled on the target to wait for the impact. Half a second later, the little dirt hill exploded sending fresh soil scattering across the snow behind it.
For a change, after taking a few more shots, I shifted to the further target. I adjusted both the power and parallax setting on my scope before I settled the reticle on the further dirt mound. After extrapolating a wind hold from my first shots, I held into the wind after dialing 5.6 MRAD for the distance. I was happily surprised as the next three shots went solidly through my target. The flying dirt giving witness after each shot.
As it happens, I jumped on the opportunity for a last minute spring bear hunt in Western Montana. Hunting Black Bears in the spring there can be very challenging and rewarding. The moist climate never stays stable for more than a few hours, and in a single afternoon you can experience heavy sweating, rain, and snow.
After putting in hundreds of miles through the forests there, and carrying this rifle on my shoulder for an average 5-6 miles a day I was quite happy with it. My efforts to keep the gun short and light were very helpful as the miles stacked up. And at random points throughout the hunt I was able to take a shot here and there to confirm accurate shot placement. And despite coming up empty-handed for a spring bear, I was able to bag a few Marmots that tempted my dry spell.
Pros and Cons
With custom rifles its almost more of a do’s and don’ts than a pros and cons. With nearly unlimited options its more about selecting which attributes you want in a rifle and whether or not you want to pay for them.
the Cole-TAC Python suppressor cover keeps mirage down when shooting multiple shots, and also protects your suppressor from getting scratched up during rough hikes
Having said that, I can certainly say that most of my selections were on point. The Premier action is an outstanding platform to build on. Its smooth operation is matched by positive extraction and robust build. I don’t regret for a second spending the money on a good trigger, that makes a huge difference for me. The carbon fiber Osprey barrel shoots great and pushes my preferred bullets at an acceptable velocity for the purposes of this rifle. The Pure Precision stock is very comfortable and lightweight. I do wish I had splurged a touch more for the adjustable comb though. Even so, adding a Triad Tactical stock pack kills that bird and another by giving me additional ammo storage and comfort.
the Triad Tactical stock pack is a very comfortable and adjustable option, with a zip-pouch for storing additional ammo and/or snacks
I may have been a touch aggressive on the shortness of the rifle, I think if I did it again I would have gone for a 22-23-inch barrel, just for the velocity.
Final Thoughts on this Project
While I am quite happy with how this custom rifle turned out. But the true test will be after I finish out my hunting season this fall. I have plans for both deer and elk hunting, and perhaps a pronghorn antelope thrown into the mix. Once those hunts have concluded, I will likely have a much better hindsight on how this project came together. But so far I am quite please with the performance, and I look forward to those hunts with intense excitement.
If you are a Creedmoor hater, you might just skip this one today. Actually, I take that back. Sit down and learn something even if its against your will. We recently went over the Creedmoor family of cartridges, and the pros and cons of each member of the family. Today we are taking a deep dive into one of those members, the 22 Creedmoor. Well go over some of the benefits of this cartridge and why you might choose it, and maybe even why you shouldn’t.
the Creedmoor family
Why the 22 Creedmoor?
Who made the 22 Creedmoor and why you might ask. After all, we already have a great supply of popular overbore centerfire .224 caliber cartridges. Why would we need another one? Sure its a bit faster than the 22-250 or maybe even the 220 Swift, but is that enough reason?
I plan on exposing the many answers to these questions. Aside from the many personal preferences we all have, I believe the strong points for the 22 Creedmoor are all based around advancements in shooting technology.
several of the best varmint hunting cartridges of all time
The 22 Creedmoor is purpose built using modern brass and cartridge manufacturing processes. It maximizes the efficiency of modern propellants, and uses modern bullet selection to its potential. And it has factory specifications to do all this in simple factory mass-manufactured rifles. I’ll go over some of the individual points and their details.
my Desert Tech SRS M2 allows me to shoot both 22 Creedmoor and .223 Remington out of the same riflethis 22 Creedmoor barrel was made by Patriot Valley Arms
There are unprecedented options for American handgun enthusiasts these days, and one of the more popular genres is the 2011 pistol market. 2011 is actually a trademarked name owned by Staccato who played no small part in making the double stack 1911 design. But like Jet-Skis and Kleenex, the name 2011 has become a universal label for the product and others like it.
Getting into a 2011 pistol can be expensive, especially if it’s an actual 2011. But today I wanted to share with you a few of my preferred and procured 2011 options that I can strongly recommend. I’ve had a few of them now, and thought I would share some insight on what you might choose if you are debating the options.
Made in America
It may seem like heresy to many 1911 fans out there, just putting a 9mm barrel into John M. Browning’s masterpiece. Not unlike putting a Toyota dual overhead cam inline-turbo-six into a 69 Camaro. But lets get right past the nonsense, and get into the guns.
You’ll find a bunch of great 2011 options made in America, but not many of them are going to come in under the $2000 mark. Many of them are well over that price-point, but there are reasons for it. I have a Staccato XC that I will often compare these other 2011 pistols to, but it is nowhere near the same price. If you are curious about the Staccato you can read my review of it here.
There are a couple options like the Kimber 2k11 series of pistols, as well as the Sig Sauer P211 GTO that I intend to review individually here soon. Though they are a bit over our $2,000 price point as well. The intro-level Platypus pistol from Stealth Arms would fall into our sub $2000 price range, and I fully intend on getting hands on one of those as well.
the Sig Sauer P211 GTO Combat
The Springfield Armory DS Prodigy
The SA Prodigy comes from a big name manufacturer, and has all the features 2011 fans are after. And it comes in well under the $2000 mark at around $1600. The Prodigy uses the polymer grip frame mated to a steel frame, this is pretty common among 2011’s. It has ambidextrous safety levers, and feeds beautifully from its 17 or 20-round magazines.
In my experience with the Prodigy, it is a smooth, well-built pistol. Its five-inch heavy match grade barrel is cut for a compensator that vents upward through the top of the slide. This helps keep it on target between shots. It also has a full length dust cover, which incorporated a picatinny accessory rail. It uses a two-piece guide rod assembled with an Allen wrench.
The Prodigy is a great balance of performance and value. It feels great and shoots just as well. With its slide cut for optics, it is ready to accessorize using the SA AOS plates and hit the range hard. If you’d like to see my in depth review of the Prodigy, you can read it here. This one has had zero updates from the factory, and is still going strong after the first thousand rounds.
Bersa M2Xi
You might not think of Bersa when you think of domestic manufactured 2011 pistols. But since opening their Georgia plant, Bersa has been making many new things. The Bersa M2Xi is a 5-inch ultra-match heavy-barreled 2011, with a 416 stainless frame and slide. It has a smooth glide on the frame that feels amazing. The Bersa is operated by a spring over a two-piece guide rod.
Its deep slide cuts give great purchase, and its controls are crisp and clean. The M2Xi uses a Holosun K optics footprint as well as some serrated iron sights. The flat trigger breaks nicely at just under 3 lbs, and it comes with an extended slide release that I really like.
It comes with 18-round Mec-Gar magazines that are seated neatly with the flared mawell. And as the only 2011 listed here today without a compensator it still shoots very nice, though it could shoot flatter with one. With its MSRP of $1479, the M2Xi sits neatly in the middle of our pistol lineup today. You can read my complete review of the Bersa M2Xi here.
Imported 2011’s
Many of the options for 2011 pistols getting closer to the $1000 mark are going to be imported. Not surprisingly they come from Turkey. There are many models from the Tisas brand that look nice, the Duty 9 DS Comp model very closely mimics the Prodigy’s design, and comes in a good $500 cheaper.
The Military Armament Corp MAC 9 is another pistol, nearly identical to the Tisas that appears to come out of the same factory. For not even $100 more. Both of them seem to enjoy some pretty positive following from American shooting enthusiasts. I am still trying to get my hands on both of those to see how they stack up to what I know.
Imported by EAA, the Girsan Match X incorporates an island compensator to its 5-inch barrel. Set on its two-tone black and tungsten frame the Match X looks fantastic. And it shoots very nicely as well with its flared magwell and fiber optic sight. An MSRP of $1199 makes it very appealing.
It too has a full length dust cover with a pic rail for accessories, and its polymer/steel frame carries its 17 or 20-round magazines. The Girsan is also optics ready, using an RMSC footprint. Its slide is returned using a spring over a single piece guide-rod.
Having shot this pistol, I was quite impressed with its price. It handles just as good as all the others, and it shoots accurately and reliably. This one already has over 1,000 trouble-free rounds through it.
Girsan 2311 CMXX
The CMXX from Girsan appears to be the smaller sibling of the Match X. This one uses a Commander length 4.25 -inch compensated barrel, an island compensator like the Match X. It is all black however, and looks like a shorter clone of my Staccato XC. It also is very comparable to the MAC 9 DS, as they both share the 4.25 barrel and comp design.
Like the Match X, the CMXX has a great trigger to match its heavy barrel. Again a single-piece guide-rod operates the pistols action, feeding from the same 17-20-round magazines as the Match X. The big difference between the CMXX and all the others I mention here today is that it doesn’t use a grip safety. Instead they went with a firing pin block like you’d find on striker pistols. Not gonna lie, I kind of like it better.
The CMXX is optics cut for RMSc optics, and its flared magwell and full-length picatinny rail makes it easy to mount your favorite light. This little pistol shoots fantastic and very flat, making it an easy choice to buy at $1149 MSRP. You can read my in-depth review of the CMXX here. Sharing the same internal extractor as the rest of these models, it has yet to malfunction on me.
My Opinion
If you are a die-hard America only kind of guy, then you’d have to choose the SA Prodigy I guess. It brings great value from a big name domestic manufacturer, and with it comes great performance.
The Bersa while a little less-known brand, might even bring a better performance for the price. Its just as smooth and refined as the Prodigy, and might even be a little better. As is the trigger, and this for almost $200 less.
I LOVE how smooth the Bersa is compared to the others I’ve shot
Out of the two Girsan models, I prefer the CMXX. I love it so much I would probably even pick it over the Bersa despite it not feeling quite as nice as the Bersa. Now, if the Bersa had an island compensator on a Commander barrel length that would change everything…
the CMXX might be my favorite due to size and performance.
I you are absolutely tapped out on funds, then I expect the MAC and Tisas are probably your choices. Or some of a few others that are similar.
I can happily recommend the pistols I’ve shown here, and if you are interested in them I would recommend reading my in depth reviews of them to get a better perspective on them. One thing is for sure, you will like shooting 2011 pistols. And it may be the beginning of an addiction you wont be able to kick.
My first real rifle, used a laminate wood stock. Not too long after, the fiberglass craze took off, as did the mainstreaming the entire custom rifle industry. It was a radical decade or two where aluminum bedding blocks eventually turned into complete chassis with carbon and other materials added in. Big growth from many companies involved was inevitable, as was the next logical step. Today we are talking about one of those products, The Grayboe Universal Mini Chassis system, and the stocks that go with it. A relatively new product offering, that offers all the precision of an aluminum chassis, and the fit and feel of a synthetic composite stock. Because of the modularity of the UMC stock system, I decided to combine two options into a single review.
Grayboe’s founder comes from the McMillan family, yes that one. I expect his exposure to the stock industry, as well as time spent behind rifles and in service influenced the company’s direction.
What Grayboe has done with their Universal Mini Chassis (UMC) is brilliant for several reasons. Everything in the gun industry is going to modular designs; multi-caliber rifles, interchangeable suppressor hubs, serialized fire control units for pistols and so on. Grayboe has brought that premise into the rifle stock market with their UMC stock design.
The UMC is exactly what it sounds like; a minimized chassis that incorporates mounting the action against a custom machined fit. Allowing a perfectly supported action while supporting the magazine and trigger within.
the Grayboe Universal Mini Chassis (UMC), this one specific to the CVA Cascade short action. I also have one for the Remington 700 short action
The UMC incorporated AICS magazines even for actions that used proprietary magazines in their stock configuration. They also have little options like adjustable magazine release levers. Weight of the UMC can vary depending on what action/inlay you choose, but its around 14 ounces.
the UMC once installed in the stock is indifferent from a traditionally bedded rifle stock
The UMC is only as big as it needs to be to accomplish those features, because it is then bolted into one of Grayboe’s many stock options. Currently these are the actions with a Grayboe UMC option.
Remington 700 Short Action
Remington 700 Long Action
Tikka T3 / T3x
Howa 1500 Short Action
Howa 1500 Long Action
Ruger American Short Action
Ruger American Long Action
Savage 110 Short Action
Savage 110 Long Action
Mossberg Patriot
CVA Cascade Short Action
The Stock Options
Grayboe’s composite fiber and impact resistant polymer stocks incorporate the light weight and strength of composites, married to all the features that shooters want. They have a variety of different stocks designed for different purposes and budgets in mind.
Core – Competition focused
Flagstaff – Hunting application lightweight
Halo – Hunting/crossover
Phoenix 2- Hunting/crossover
Renegade 2 (Unreleased at publication)
All of these stocks accept the UMC using two screws. That means if you have two different Grayboe stocks, you can transfer your rifle from one to the other in under a minute if you’re quick. All the UMC’s have the same external footprint, fitting any of the Grayboe stocks. And they make UMC’s for most of the popular rifle actions.
torquing in one of my CVA Cascade rifles into the UMC
The Innovative Bit
So you might have already imagined, if you have a couple UMC’s, and a few stocks, you can mix and match. This brings options to the American rifleman who lusts for customization and modularity. You could use the exact same stock on your Ruger American 7PRC elk hunting rifle and your favorite Tikka 22-250 varmint rifle. And they can be changed out quick and without needing to re-zero the rifle.
Unboxing Grayboe Stock
Grayboe recently released a UMC for the CVA Cascade short action, and since I am currently on a Cascade kick it was perfect timing. And as a glutton for modular rifle systems, I tested both the Grayboe Flagstaff and Core stocks with the CVA UMC. My two CVA Cascade rifles would both benefit from the Grayboe system. The exact rifles used are the CVA Cascade SB .65CM and the CVA Cascade Long Range Hunter 25CM, you can read the reviews of the individual rifles here.
You can buy the Grayboe stocks with or without the UMC of your choice. The different stocks come with different accessories, depending on the stock. For example, the Core stock came with spacers to adjust the length of pull. Both stocks came with M-Lok slots under the forearm to allow attachment of accessories like bipods and ARCA rails. They also have QD cups to attach slings both front and rear.
The UMC comes with hardware to attach the rifle action, as well as connecting the UMC to the stock itself. As well as some simple instructions to assemble the whole thing.
Features
These two stocks have some differing features as they are built for very divergent purposes. The Flagstaff is built with hunters in mind, while the Core is built for competitive and professional shooters. They share the footprint of the UMC, and the same stylings but are otherwise pretty different.
here is one of my custom Remington 700’s mounted in the UMC/Flagstaff
The Flagstaff
Keeping the weight down on the Flagstaff was obviously a priority, but it is still pretty feature rich all things considered. On the flat-bottomed forend you will find four M-Lok slots for attaching things like ARCA rails or your favorite bipod. It also has QD sling cups on the bottom front and rear to attach your favorte sling.
the CVA Cascade LRH 25Creedmoor in the Flagstaff stock
The textured grip is built at a 35 degree angle, and comb height is fairly traditional. I found that the polymer Flagstaff has a slight compressed fit when installing the UMC, adding a bit of a squeeze to it. Whereas in the carbon fiber Core, it dropped in like a machined fit.
The Core
By comparison, the Core stock has a lot going on. It can be had in either fiberglass or carbon, with a significant weight difference between them. Since it has a focus on the professional shooter, there are many added little features.
The length of pull can be adjusted using provided spacers, moving the gel recoil pad to fit the shooter. The comb height can be adjusted on the fly with a thumb-screw, keeping the luxuriously soft cheek-rest at the perfect height for your sight picture. On the bottom of the buttstock you will find a traditional butt-hook to keep the recoil pad in your shoulder pocket.
spacers are used to adjust length of pull on the Core stock
On the right side of the stock, there are threaded mounting bosses to install a HopticUSA cartridge quiver. An accessory that has become quite popular over the last few years. Up front the Core also features M-Lok slots under the broad and flat forend. It also has multiple QD cups on all sides of the stock so you can carry it different ways. The barrel channel is cut wide, to allow heavy barrel profiles often used in competition.
Grayboe Core
Grayboe Flagstaff
Weight
4.5lb Fiberglass/6lb Carbon
2.5lbs
Material
Fiberglass or Carbon fiber
Impact resistant polymer
Barrel Channel
Under 1.330 inches
Sendero under .925
Sling QD Cups
7 total front and rear
Front and rear
M-Lok Slots
Full length on forend
4 M-Lok slots on forend
Length of Pull
12.75 min Plus .25” spacers
13.5
Comb Height
Adjustable (tooless)
Fixed
Overall Length
32.5-inches
31.5-inches
my custom Remington 700 .223 Remington setup in the Core stock. Its heavy 1.30 straight taper barrel barely fits but it shoots amazing in this setup
Installation
Since I got the system for my CVA Cascade rifles, I would end up installing two different rifles in various configurations. And swap both of them back and forth between the different stocks to get additional experience. I also got my hands on one of the Remington 700 SA UMC’s, which has also allowed me to use these stocks on several of my custom 700’s.
One of the first intricacies that I noticed was a necessity by the manufacturer to make each UMC fit the different action options. For example; the CVA Cascade action screws are in front of and just behind the magwell. This required an engineering solution because a traditional trigger guard like on typical floorplates would be right on top of the rear action screw.
here you can see why the trigger guard needs to be removable, the rear action screw is right under it
Unlike tang-mounted rear action screws like on a Remington 700 that go behind the trigger guard. So Grayboe’s solution was to install the trigger guard after marrying the UMC to the action. The trigger-guard incorporating the mag release are pinned in place after attaching the UMC and action.
the two roll pins that attach the trigger guard and mag release assembly. It must be attached AFTER installing the action to the UMC
I was right to assume that other UMC’s for other actions have a regular trigger guard as part of it, as you can see on my Remington 700 SA UMC below. The trigger guard is built into the UMC as the rear action screw can be accessed without removing it.
Perhaps there are several differences like this depending on the different actions. The UMC can then be dropped right into any of the compatible stocks. There are two cap-screws that connect the UMC and the stock that once torqued down, make it into one solid structure.
tightening the UMC into the Flagstaff stock
It really wasn’t very hard at all to figure out the installation, or to swap them between the two stock options I had. I hadn’t even gotten to the range yet and I was already contemplating other UMC’s for some of my other rifles.
After the installations process, its simply a matter of adding the accessories you would like for the stock. For example, on the Core stock, I installed one of my Hoptic USA cartridge quivers on the side. I was surprised that this little bonus was added, and that they even put stub-screws in to protect the threads from getting damaged or filled with crud.
Installing my HopticUSA 25 Creedmoor cartridge Quiver. inset: removing the stub-screws
Additionally, I decided to add an Area 419 ARCA lock rail to the Core stock. It is already pretty heavy (which is common for competition guns) so adding a little more wasn’t a big deal. I might add a lightweight short ARCA rail to the Flagstaff, but that one I’m trying to keep light in hopes of carrying it this hunting season.
all AICS magazines I used worked great with the Grayboe UMC
Shooting with Grayboe Stocks
Putting the Grayboe stock system to work, would take place over various trips to the range in open country of the Rocky Mountains. I like to practice where I hunt, so the Flagstaff would get used in the same rugged country where we chase deer and elk. The Core on the other hand isn’t exactly a hunters best choice, but it too would get used for some long range shooting in big country.
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Ergonomics
I used just about every option there is when it comes to stocks and chassis. I don’t consider myself to be particularly picky as in general I like most of them. The Grayboe Flagstaff has a pretty traditional feel to it with some added features for handling.
Grayboe Flagstaff
The grip area has a textured pad for added purchase. And the forearm of the stock has two finger grooves running down the side, this gives your fingers something to hold on to when carrying by the stock. The rubber buttpad is nice, sticking where it should.
I ended up using a Triad Tactical stock pack on the back to get better comb height. This turned out to be a suitable situation for my hunting purposes. I also used a few different AICS pattern magazines, all of which worked great.
Grayboe Core
Grayboe’s Core stock on the other hand feels a bit more like a nice leather couch compared to the Flagstaff. That should come as no surprise as most competition focused stocks have many comfort features.
shooting from the Two Vets Tripod attached by ARCA rail system
The adjustable comb is as luxurious as it is practical. Making the rifle fit you is quick and simple, and a comfortable place to rest your cheek while shooting. The vertical grip feels fantastic, keeping your finger perfectly presented to the trigger. The magazine release of the UMC is easily reached with your trigger finger, and has enough resistance to avoid being accidentally engaged.
It wouldn’t hurt my feelings if there was a touch more texture in the right spots, as most guns put into this stock are going to be heavier. A nice texture on the grip areas would help for holding tight. It was nice to carry on a sling though, without it dragging or pulling at clothing.
The wide front end of the Core stock allows you to rest the rifle on any surface it will fit, and get a good rest. Once I’d added the ARCA rail, it was even bigger around which could be a challenge for small handed individuals.
Putting the soft gel recoil pad into your shoulder feels quite suave. My two CVA’s don’t recoil very hard but if you had one that did, this recoil pad would definitely soften the blow. I also like the butthook under the stock, it allows you to pull the stock into your shoulder when you need it.
Both of these stocks are quite rigid, giving that stiff platform to launch your shots from. I was surprised to find out the Flagstaff was made from polymer, I initially thought they were both carbon fiber. But even though it is made of a “lesser” material, I was quite happy with it. Minimal flex of the stock make the Flagstaff a great option, and its polymer production is likely why it is more affordable than the carbon options.
The Grayboe Core stock takes it to the next level, with all the best materials and features. Everything from the finish of the stock, to the supplied fasteners and little instruction cards to help those mechanically challenged out there. The soft parts of the the Core are so nice I’d hate to take them hunting, as they might get sweat soaked or even torn hiking through brush. It does feel built like tank, if you ran out of ammo you could certainly beat your antagonists into a fine paste with it.
the Universal Mini Chassis
Machine work as seen in the Universal Mini Chassis is excellent. All the aluminum parts were nicely anodized and smooth. Both of my rifles fit perfectly into the UMC, and functioned flawlessly. You can tell they spent time designing each different UMC to interact with the action it was meant to fit. And in the CVA case, makes them work perfectly with AICS magazines.
Durability
Grayboe offers a lifetime warranty on their products, which is very comforting. It covers both craftsmanship and accidental damage for those who like to leave their rifle propped against truck tires. If you do happen to use your stock to beat someone into pâté and wear some of the finish off however, that would be considered normal wear. So don’t expect to abuse the warranty.
The only thing I found during my time with these Grayboe stocks that made me pause for durability concerns was the trigger guard. I could see somebody not being careful enough and damaging or breaking the trigger guard when in stalling it in the UMC. Again this might just be the CVA option as others are built into the UMC.
Value
If you browse some of the popular custom stock options you can find stocks that cost significantly more, and some that cost less. The Flagstaff is definitely a more affordable option, with not many less expensive options that offer an aluminum mini chassis.
The Core stock on the other hand has a lot more competition from many of the big names. Even so, the Core is not as expensive as other options. At this level, there is a lot of subjectivity and usually folks can choose based solely on their preference and looks. Many of the Core’s competitors offer similar features, but they don’t offer the modularity. That may be reason enough to choose the Grayboe option.
Pros and Cons
Pros
Cons
Comment
Strong and rigid construction
(Core) Can be heavy
Comp guns are heavy so…
Great fit and finish
Trigger guard thing I mentioned
May only be the CVA version
(UMC) Precise machinework
I’d like more exterior texture
For grip areas and in general
Excellent modularity
Huge step up from original equipment
Both stock and magazine system improved
Comfortable to carry and shoot
Excellent warranty
Great value
Great Feature set
M-Lok, QD cups, etc.
the flat bottomed forend of the stocks made it easy to improvise shooting positions
Final Thoughts
Different designs appeal to different individuals tastes, I definitely found the Grayboe products to fit into mine. I really enjoy configurable rifles, and the ability to interchange and customize them. But that is certainly not a requirement, as you can setup you rifle in one of these Grayboe chassis systems and never mess with it.
There is definitely a style to their designs, like any manufacturer. And whether one style or another appeals to you, the function of the Grayboe system is fantastic and innovative. Whether you choose to mix and match as I have, or if you are just looking for a solid stock/chassis to improve your factory rifle these will work great. They are well built, and offer great features for a reasonable price made by Americans right here in America.
Nine millimeter handguns have completely dominated much of the concealed carry market. That’s not to say there aren’t other great options, but 9mm seems to be what people are navigating towards. My blue-collar experience with firearms has taught me the value of a good CCW pistol that doesn’t leave you strapped for cash. Today I wanted to go over a handful of my favorite 9mm compact pistols for carry that I think are worth your consideration. Not everyone can afford to carry a CZ Shadow Compact or some wiz-bang H&K, so I tend to look at guns that I would buy or recommend to family and friends.
When purchasing anything including guns, there is always a fine line to walk between what you want and what you can afford. When looking at CCW pistols there is yet another fine line to walk; size and weight vs. capacity. You can always find a smaller gun that is easier and more comfortable to conceal, but usually with lower ammunition capacity or diminished ballistic performance.
Once you decide on a CCW pistol, get really comfortable using it, practice often
As we go over CCW pistol options, we will inevitably be going back and forth between these two extremes. Trying to find balance between what we can afford, what we can comfortably tuck into a belt, without loosing enough capacity. Capacity of course being paramount in a defensive shooting situation, and always on your mind when selecting a pistol.
The Gold Standard
If you ask the question about whats the best 9mm compact, your going to hear the word Glock quite a bit. And there are good reasons for it, Glock makes several good compact pistols with years of solid performance. Does that make it the best option? Maybe not, but they are certainly worth looking at.
Probably the best compact option from the Austrian manufacturer would be either the Glock 19 of one flavor or another, or the slimmer Glock 43. Both are compact models, but the G19 is more like a service sized compact. Whereas the G43 is more about overall concealment. Tucking the G43 is easier because of its slim design, though this comes at the cost of capacity being limited to 6-8 rounds.
The G19 on the other hand can easily handle 15-rounds before adding +1 or 2 floor plates. And with its slightly larger frame the G19 is a great shooting platform. The popularity of these two pistols has created a massive aftermarket support, giving countless options for accessories like holsters, weapon lights, sights and more. I prefer the G19 myself of these two, mainly because of the capacity thing.
Alchemist Clones
Manufacturing the gold standard from something less is a bit like ancient alchemy. The Glock clone market has exploded in recent years, giving countless additional variations of the famous Glock design. Not only do many of them compete well with the original, but they do it for the same or lower price.
PSA Dagger
Starting at the bottom of the heap, PSA’s Dagger pistol has exploded in popularity. Available as a compact or subcompact, the Dagger is similar enough to the G19 to use nearly its entire aftermarket support. I’ve used a Dagger extensively and find them to be very affordable without giving up capacity or shootability. Some would argue their reliability, but in my experience they are a great buy for often under $300. To see our in-depth review of the Dagger click here.
Ruger RXM
Ruger’s RXM is actually a joint project with Magpul, and with two names like that you should be able to expect a good product. The RXM is a very close clone of the G19 again, but it hides an ability to change its stripes. With its modular frame you can swap between different sized frames creating your own version of a G19, 17, or 47. Or anything in between. The RXM gives great reliability while enjoying the same aftermarket support as the Glock pistols it mimics. I have carried the RXM extensively, and quite like its performance and fit. To see our in-depth review of the RXM click here.
Shadow System’s MR920 is another copy of the G19. But instead of just copying the Glock pattern, Shadow Systems intended to improve upon it. Trying to improve both the performance and aesthetics, the MR920 looks as good as it shoots.
And adding to the value, the company also offers a variety of different barrel options and other features allowing you to customize your carry pistol. Allowing optical sights and threaded barrels gives you more dexterity.
The Not Glocks
Other manufacturers have also presented their own popular pistol designs for the CCW market. For the most part they are all very similar to Glocks striker fired polymer frame design. After all, if the design works, why not run with it.
CZ P10S
inserting the 12-round magazine
The CZ P10S is a compact pistol that offers 12+1 capacity in a small optics ready pistol. I was very impressed with the performance of this pistol, and especially for the price. It can occasionally be had on PSA for under $400, which is a great deal considering its performance and heritage. The P10’s widespread use by civilians, law enforcement and some militaries give confidence that its design is both robust and here to stay. My only gripe with it is the need to buy an optics adaptor plate to run a red dot. To see our in-depth review of the CZ P10S click here.
Canik Mete MC9
Canik’s MC9 on the other hand, comes with its own selection of optics mounting plates for a variety of options. As well as different grip options, and a 15+1 capacity, all this for under $400 at times depending on configuration.
The MC9 brings its own style and design, while keeping with the design that has made all these pistols successful. It fits well in the hand, keeping just enough grip available to not feel undersized and still being compact enough to tuck. It shoots great and looks good at the same time, giving an affordable great performance. To see our in-depth review of the Canik METE MC9 click here.
Smith & Wesson Shield
The family of Smith & Wesson Shield pistols has a great variety of compact and comfortable carry pistols. I’ve carried the M&P Shield Plus a bit, and was very impressed with how slim it is, and how well it shoots with its ported barrel. Of course with such a small pistol you are going to give up some capacity. But this might be one of those I would choose for maximum concealment even at the cost of capacity.
There also seems to be a great variety in configurations and cost. Which gives you quite a few options to customize your carry. These pistols have great sights, and some direct mount red dot options. As well as manual safeties or not depending on what you want, all of these options can be used to enhance your daily carry. To see our in-depth review of the M&P Shield Plus click here.
Sig Sauer P365
We cant forget to include the P365 from Sig Sauer, a compact pistol built specifically for carrying. The P365 brings full-size capacity to a very small pistol, perhaps not quite as small as the G43 but almost.
the Sig Sauer P365 XMacro Comp is a great pistol with both capacity and small footprint
The 17-round magazines fill almost the entirety of the grip, and yet they still managed to make an interchangeable backstrap to customize the fit. One of the great features of the P365 is that its not a P320… (pause for laughter). But seriously, it has an incredible spread of options including compensated barrels, and various other configurations. Too many to list here, but worth looking into. And even with so many options the P365 is not horribly expensive.
Much like the Hellcat coming next, the P365 really blurs the lines between compact pistols and big capacity. With reliable function, good trigger, and every option a CCW student could ask for.
Springfield Armory Hellcat Pro
Springfield Armory’s Hellcat Pro came to as an incredible value. It is impressively small considering its capacity. Like the P365 it seems to best combat the size/capacity balance for compact pistols. With 15 and 17-round magazine options, the Hellcat Pro brings near full-size capacity to a very small pistol. The only way I approve of increasing weight of a CCW pistol is by adding more ammo to it.
The Hellcat Pro brings a lot of firepower to a small pistol with good sights and an optics ready pistol. Smaller pistols often are a touch spicier and snappy, so be sure to try them first. And if you are one who likes manual safeties, the Hellcat has that option as well. Rounded out with a decent trigger and accessory rail, you could really do well with a Hellcat. To see our in-depth review of the SA Hellcat Pro click here.
How to Select Your Own CCW Pistol
Having evaluated all the options out there, you need to decide on your budget. As that will dictate which of the options are available to you. Once you’ve created a list of pistol options within your budget, you can start looking. A good fit for a pistol, is one that lines up as close as possible with your natural point. I love a gun that is already pointed at my target when I present it without even focusing hard. Some are better than others depending on your grip, so I would try various options before buying.
Make sure you get a good holster for your pistol like this Safariland IncogX
After doing that, you can also see which of the options best aligns with your choice of accessories. What holster and sight options are available for it, and how you would prefer that selection went. And by the time you have evaluated all of these things, there should be at least a couple good stand-out options for you to choose from.
Concluding Thoughts
Hopefully you have found a few pieces of valuable information here. And armed with a little more information you are better suited to pick the best option for your protection. Remember that if you intend on defending life with a CCW weapon, its probably worth spending as much as you can afford for reliability.
Nearly any of the pistols mentioned here today would fit into one of my carry needs. And I would be happy carrying any one of them on any given day. Feel free to make your own recommendations in the comments below.
As the popularity of the 6mm Advanced Rifle Cartridge (6 ARC) continues to grow, there are more and more firearms chambered in the cartridge. Two popular rifles that carry the 6 ARC chambering (among many others) are the Ruger American and the Howa Mini action rifles. Both are very popular and well built rifles, and today we will be putting the rifles side by side to see how they compare. These are the hard things I do for you, so that you can decide which one better suits your needs. Ruger American Gen 2 versus Howa Mini is a direct comparison of the two rifles, not just as 6 ARC rifles, but as platforms themselves. Both rifles are available in a huge variety of configurations and calibers, but since these two are almost direct comparisons it is a good place to take a look.
Lets start out with a direct comparison of some of the features. The Ruger is a newer design that incorporates many of the newest stylings and manufacturing techniques. While the Howa is a more traditional design, incorporating many of the best features learned from building rifles over the last fifty-years. Despite some of the differences they are still quite similar.
Ruger American 6ARC
Howa Mini 6ARC
Barrel length
20-inch
20-Inch
Barrel Twist
1:7.7-inches
1:7.5-Inches
Capacity
10-Rounds (factory)
5-Rounds (factory)
Weight
6.5 Lbs
6.6 Lbs
Magazine System
AR-15 Style
Proprietary
Action Type
Three-lug Rotary bolt-action
Two-lug Rotary bolt-action
Extractor Type
Sliding Plate Extractor
M-16 Style Claw
Bolt Construction
One-piece Machined
One-piece Forged
Bolt Knob
5/16-24 interchangeable
Solid
Safety
3-position plus blade safety
3-position
Trigger
Adjustable single stage
Adjustable two-stage
Stock
Configurable Polymer
One-piece Polymer
Bedding System
Power Bedding V-block
Pillar-bedded
Muzzle Device
Radial Muzzle Brake ⅝-24
Thread Protector ⅝-24
Scope Mounting system
Proprietary Rail Included
2-Piece R700 Compatible
Overall Length
41.25-Inches
39.5-Inches
Length of Pull
12-13.75-inches
13.5-Inches
Finish
Cerakote
Matte Bluing
Howa Mini
The Howa Mini is a scaled down version of their popular M1500 short-action, the Mini version made to handle the smallest centerfire cartridge families. Basically cartridges that are made for an AR15 sized action like the .223 Remington, 300Blk, 350 Legend, the 6.5 Grendel and of course the 6 ARC seen here.
The Mini is fed from a proprietary magazine made by Howa, it is a polymer 5-round that hangs out the bottom of the stock. Releasing the magazine is done with a button at the front of the magwell, while capturing the magazine in your palm.
With its two-stage trigger, the Mini gives excellent control for the shooter when breaking the shot. Its three-position safety has a safe, safe load/unload, and a firing position. All this mounted via pillars in the hard molded stock.
Ruger American
The Ruger American also has some scaled down features, but its action remains the same as other short-action Americans. Ruger designed the American to be mass produced, using similar parts for as many models as possible. The magazine well of the stock is interchangeable, meaning you can simply swap it out for a different sized cartridge.
Additionally, the American stock incorporates the Power Bedding V-block system that directly mates with the action. And the stock can be configured depending on the shooter, with a separate removable spacer system to shorten length of pull. You can also order different comb-height spacers to get the best eye position behind the scope.
The American’s Marksman trigger is easily adjustable, and it also has a three-position safety just like the Howa. The difference is the American is tang mounted compared to the Howa’s right side of the tang location.
Using a three-lug bolt on the American shortened the bolt lift for the rifle, making it fast to operate. The Ruger bolt is timed by its bolt-stop that also acts like a key, keeping the bolt stroking inline. As compared to the Mini that uses the bolt lugs against the bolt raceway for timing.
here you can see some of the inner workings of the American
The sliding Plate extractor of the Ruger snaps around rims of cartridges, and a plunger style ejector throws them out of the action when the bolt is opened. The M16 claw style extractor of the Mini has more leverage as it bites into the rim, but uses the same plunger style ejector.
I have shot both of these rifles extensively over the past few years, and both of them serve a great purpose in this caliber. Whether it be for hunting varmints or even lighter big game animals, both of these rifles would be an excellent choice. I have had the Howa Mini longer, so don’t be surprised that I have a little more insight on the rifle.
On my first trip to the range with the rifles, I got a fairly similar result from both. I would shoot a couple of the production ammunition options from Hornady. The 105gr Black ammo, the 108gr Match ammo, as well as a few other handloaded options. Neither of them was super impressive with the factory ammunition choices, with the Howa averaging around MOA, and the Ruger as well. But once I switched over to my handloaded 105gr loads, things changed. Both of the rifles quickly tightened up with the new source, shooting well under MOA.
Here are a couple examples of typical good groups from both rifles
Feeding
Cycling the actions while on a bench at the range, I found out a lot about the magazine systems. The Ruger American uses AR15 magazines, which are metal. And though they feed fine, they are a little more sticky than the polymer lips of the Howa magazine. So both rifles fed without issue, but the Howa had a slightly smoother feel to it.
Conversely, the Howa magazine had its own detriments. For example, they aren’t particularly expensive and it shows. They work great but I’d be afraid that if I stepped on it they would break for sure. I’d love it if they were a bit more robust, and being as they are only five-round magazines, it seems like they should be shorter. Maybe not flush with the stock but at least less obtrusive than they are. Duramag makes a near flush fitting magazine specifically for the American you can see here.
Triggers on both rifles were great considering these rifles prices. I will readily admit that I did adjust both of them a little to improve the feel. But even in their stock configuration they feel fine. I love a good good 2-stage trigger, and the Mini’s 2-stage feels great to me.
If I had to pick, I like it a touch more than the American trigger. I also hate trigger blade safeties, I used to take them off my old Savage rifles back when I had them. Even so, the American trigger is perfectly fine. And after I adjusted it slightly I liked it even more, to the point I completely forgot about the the blade safety.
the mag release on the Ruger is a little bit of a reach for the trigger finger
Bolt Lift & Stroke
The shorter bolt-lift of the American seems preferable, and yet when doing most of my shooting I hardly noticed the difference. Its almost like you only notice it when you focus on it. This also depends on the rifle scope used with the rifle. If you put a large riflescope on either of these rifles, the shorter lift of the Ruger is less likely to cause occlusions with bolt or fingers when operating it. Whereas on the Howa, the bolt is much closer to the scope because of its longer lift.
the Howa Mini has had the same US Optics scope on it for a few years now
Aftermarket
Support from the aftermarket is a big deal these days, and for that topic the Ruger wins. The American rifle has a host of aftermarket supporters making everything from triggers to bolt-knobs and chassis. While the Mini also has some support, it seems less prolific which makes sense. The Ruger American has been around longer, and Ruger is a massive stalwart in the industry. Howa is a lesser known brand, with perhaps a more traditional following that might be less likely to customize their rifle. That is of course changing nowadays.
Report Card
Instead of a typical pros and cons, I am choosing to give these two rifle a grade as compared to the other. To clarify, this report card is a direct comparison between only these two rifles. As they compare to each other, not against anything else which could be a big difference.
Ruger American 6ARC
Howa Mini 6ARC
Accuracy
A-
A-
Shootability
A-
B+
Reliability
A
A
Ergonomics
A
B+
Value
B+
A-
Production Quality
A-
A-
Finish
A
B
Aftermarket Support
A
B+
Trigger Quality
A-
A
Action feel
B+
B+
Magazine System
B+
B+
Barrel Features
A
B+
Stock Configuration
A
B
Stock Feel
B+
A-
Average Grade
A-
B+
I was actually surprised myself when I looked at the report card between the two. Because I wouldn’t have thought there would be as much disparity even in my own findings. A great deal of the difference comes from the Ruger’s modularity and aftermarket support, which can be very subjective. As I mentioned I have more time with the Mini, and perhaps thats why I like it so much and defend its virtues.
the Howa Mini has been my wife’s hunting rifle for years now, you can read about it here
My Verdict
As you can tell by now, I like both of these rifles. I suggest that you go with whichever of the two you find more in line with your needs. For some it might just come down to brand preference. Both of them are capable of good accuracy, and both of them can be had in calibers other than 6 ARC as well. I myself suffer from terminal poly-gunism, and therefore cannot bring myself to eliminate a gun from my collection without at least a moderate disliking. Something neither of these rifles inspire in me.
Hopefully I have shed some additional light on these two rifles, enough to allow you to better choose one for yourself. Feel free to drop a comment or question, I’ll be happy to answer them.
-CBM
If you’d like to see both of these rifle reviewed individually, you can see them here:
Many years ago, I was a much younger man with more hair and less money. But the burning desire within to have a fine selection of precision rifles was already there. I had just crossed the threshold of understanding that getting exactly what you want, can be done with enough money and effort. And today I am recounting the experience of how one of my all time favorite rifles came into existence. A custom Remington 700 .223 varmint rifle I put together, that has since dominated the rodents of the intermountain west.
It all started when I was on the road working in California of all places, and I laid eyes on fat barreled Kimber bolt action rifle. I didn’t buy it, but was instead inspired to build something better.
My Specifications
I knew that if I was going to go custom, I may as well go all the way. My decisions were affected by a few options, but here is the specs as they ended up:
Action
Remington 700 (1980’s vintage)
Caliber
.223 Wylde chamber (throated for 75gr ELDM)
Barrel
20-inch Krieger Match 1.3-inch straight taper 12 flute
The rifle was originally built as a set of twins, for myself and a friend. I had originally built two very custom stocks for the rifles, carved from wood and using my own improvised aluminum mini-chassis within.
The stocks used a DBM System from CDI, that used the AICS magazines which at the time were only available from Accuracy International. I built in a bipod spigot on the front to use Versa Pod bipods because I thought that would be cool.
some detail of the original stock and mini-chassis I made for this rifle.
I also initially had a few issues with the original Remington extractor, so I had the bolt cut for a Sako extractor which greatly increased the reliability. Of course bolt fluting and an extended bolt-knob were also part of the work.
A New Chapter
As my tastes changed over time, I ended up putting the rifle into a GB Rifleworks MARC Sport Chassis. And because the rifle gets used for so many different projects, it frequently gets optics swapped out. Originally the rifle had one of the very first Vortex PST 4-16×50 scopes on it, I was on that preorder and ended up with Serial number 0000004 which was kinda cool. Later and for most of its life, the rifle had a Gen 2 Vortex PST 5-15×50 which served perfectly. Currently it has a Discovery OPT 5-25 scope which is big enough to match the attitude of this rifle. Mounted in an Anubis Defense one-piece mount.
This rifle has always shot very accurately, and due to its fat girl profile it hardly moves when shooting. The very thick barrel makes a stable platform to launch bullets from. I had always planned on shooting heavy bullets from this rifle, making it not just a varmint gun, but an affordable long-range plinker as well.
Most loads I have made for this rifle typically group under half an inch. Besides the always common 75 ELDM (I bought 3500 of them a couple years back), I’ve also shot hundreds of 80gr ELDM’s, and 80gr Match Kings. And way back in the old days she ate nothing but 75gr A-Max’s.
some of my favorite handloads; 75-grain ELDM bullets over 23-ish grains of AR-Comp
Over the last decade or so, I’ve made some pretty impressive hits with it. Keeping shots on an IPSC target at 1200 yards isn’t a huge challenge on a calm winded day. Taking a chucks head off from 454 yards in a pretty stiff wind is exactly the kind of shot this rifle is famous for. You can see more of the rifle in action in my video Major League Chucker’s 9.
Over the last decade, the rifle has seen dozens of different suppressors. Seen here is the YHM Turbo
Some may wonder why I went with such a short barrel. Obviously if it was a 24 or 26-inch barrel it would be even heavier, but also I feel like I get plenty of velocity out of this 20-inch for my needs. Typical velocities from 75 and 80 grain bullets usually hover around 2800fps, which will carve a groundhog in twain even from a great distance. And when shooting lighter 55-grain bullets it is even faster.
the straight bolt handle and the smooth fit make this action feel like a custom
Hunting
As a hunter at heart, the majority of this rifle’s activities involved hunting of some kind. Mainly varmints like prairie dogs and marmots, but we have used them for other hunts as well. Deer sized animals are easily taken with heavy 223 loads like the 75-grain ELDM. Particularly when you have such a sharp shooting rifle and can place the shot perfectly.
this doe Pronghorn antelope took a single shot to the goodies from 300 yards
Most of the shots this rifle has been involved in though are small animals. It loves the Hornady 55-grain hollow points, and the 50-grain V-max bullets. The 20-inch barrel still produces more than enough velocity to get that pop that varmint hunters crave. From the dry plains of Wyoming terrorizing dogtowns, to the alpine Rocky Mountain high’s taking squirrels, marmots and coyotes.
using the Arca interface, the rifle sits neatly on my Two Vets Tripod
Compatibility
One of the best parts about this rifle is its compatibility. Being a Remington 700 action, I can use the huge aftermarket support. And the chassis allows me to use all my favorite Arca and M-Lok accessories. I usually run either a Harris bipod up front or an Atlas bipod mounted on the Arca rail. But it also allows me to shoot from a standing position off the tripod, which again is very stable because of the gun’s weight and low recoil.
Again, over the years I’ve run half a dozen different triggers in the rifle. X-Mark, Timney, Trigger Tech, and more. Honestly I haven’t had a complaint about any of them in this rifle. Even the old X-Mark has worked well for me. My little Cartridge Quiver from Hoptic USA fits neatly into this rifle, making for quick followup shots should the magazine run dry.
I had the muzzle threaded 5/8-24, this was because at the time of construction I had but one suppressor and she was a .30. These days its no big deal, as most of my suppressors use the hub system to adapt to whatever mounting system I want. That allows me to put a 5/8-24 breech hub on my 5.56 cans and run them here.
Additionally, when we discussed the chamber, my smith at the time recommended the Wylde chamber. This would make it easy to shoot 223 and 5.56 ammunition, and probably has been better at taking my reloads as well.
Lessons Learned
Having built this rifle well over a decade ago, I’ve had ample time to reflect on it. The only real miss I think, was that chassis like this one weren’t as common or ready back then. While I still like the old custom stock I built for it, I like it better with my chassis. Other than that, I think 2009 me was spot TF on the rest. And I absolutely love this chunky little killer.
I think if I was to redo the project today, I would for sure have to use a different chassis since this one is extinct. I really like KRG chassis, so I’d likely go that way. And I would probably use a Tikka action, or maybe a Howa Mini action.
If you find yourself dreaming about a goofy project like I was once upon a time, chase the dream. There are few things finer than stacking bodies with a custom rifle you built first in your mind.
